Transcript of meeting #1 for Territorial Leadership Committee in the 13th Assembly.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Everyone is keenly aware of the fiscal restraints that we are going to feel with the change in the formula financing that has come into play. We can look at actually saving money by avoiding waste without seriously impacting programs and services. I have not been a Member of this government, so I haven't had a chance to look at budgetary figures, line by line, to see where we could save money . However, as an outsider looking in, I still feel that there are places that we could spend our money more wisely and still not jeopardize what we are trying to achieve.

During our Caucus meeting this week, the question of MLAs' and Ministers' salaries and benefits came up again. At that time I said, although I am very aware of the extra burden for Members who come from far distances with respect to being away from family, we, as the leaders, need to look at salaries, benefits and pensions. I have committed during my election campaign in Hay River, and I will commit here again today, that a percentage reduction in that area would be a good start and would show that we are taking a leadership role in trying to keep our expenditures under control. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have to take a serious look at how we are spending our money. Even with a looming deficit of $100 million, I think our government is too heavy. The bureaucracy is too thick. Our people have to jump too many hurdles to get everything from the government. We have to streamline the government and make better use of our money. Maybe there is enough money in that budget to supply the proper services to people. We don't necessarily have to cut the services at the community level. It means we have to spend our money better. We have to get more bang for our dollar. We have to ensure that when the dollar comes from the top, it doesn't end up at 55 cents by the time it gets to the community, who no longer can afford to spend 45 cents on the dollar to administer programs. We have to take a serious look, in the context of the big picture, at our own wages and benefits, as well as everyone's wages and benefits. We have to sit down as Members of this Assembly, set up a strategy, set out our goals and then we have to go out and do the job. That is my approach. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Miltenberger followed by Mr. Henry. Again, I would like to remind the Members that you don't have to ask all of your four questions. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have two questions for each candidate. The first one is a financial question. I'd like the thoughts of both candidates on the looming deficit and the cuts that we do have to make, and the unfortunate tendency in some jurisdictions to make a lot of those cuts on the backs of the poor, the single parents, the disabled, the elderly and the sick. How can we balance our budget in a humane way that recognizes those in need? How will you address that issue in such a way that we don't do it on the backs of the most disadvantaged and the least able to afford it? Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, for one, am not in favour of balancing the budget on the backs of the poor. I have proven that in the past four years as a Member of this Assembly. If Members are interested, the previous government cut $50 million a year for three years in a row. I, as Minister responsible for the Department of Public Works, cut well over 100 person years out of my budget. I don't think it affected the people at the community level. It did affect the administration, but the job is still getting done, so it didn't have much of an effect on them either. It did save us a lot of dollars. I believe that is the way to go. We have to streamline government. We have to change the way we work. We can't balance the budget on the backs of the poor. We need a leaner government, Mr. Chairman, but not a meaner government. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I also agree that we need to look at ways of balancing our budget, but we also have to be compassionate. The best thing we can do for our people is in the area of creating opportunities for them. Many of the people in the smaller communities are on a...The situation doesn't look bright in the area of employment. We have to take measures that close the gap between the have communities and the have-not communities. We need to be very creative in our outlook and our thinking for ways of creating opportunity, so that we are not just looking after people, but helping them to look after themselves.

As most of you know, I am from a business background and I think that we need a good balance of different perspectives in our government, we need people from the private sector, we need people from the public sector, but sometimes, having managed a small business for many years, you look at, sometimes, the way things are being done and you have ideas. I think that this government has to be open to creative ideas about creating opportunity for people so that they can...They don't want to be a burden and they want ways of looking after themselves. I think the prospects for economic development and job creation are numerous, but we just have to be daring enough to be creative and try new things. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Your second question, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My final question is with regard to constitutional development in the West, a process that we're trying to fast track, given the short time frames. I would like to be given the thoughts of both candidates on that process, whether they support such a process and how they would see it working. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hadthe privilege of attending the constitutional development conference that was held here in Yellowknife in January, and that was a real eye opener for me to see all the various parties from the West come together and put their aspirations and ideas on the table. We do have a much bigger challenge ahead of us here in the West. We are a diverse group of people with different cultures, different languages, and a very different population mix than what exists in the East. We have to proceed with constitutional development, and I do support the process that is taking place now, but at the same time we have to be very careful that we respect the parallel things that are going on with various Members. I'm thinking of the various treaty organizations, I'm thinking of the Metis Nation, that are also on an agenda and foreseeing their goals. So we have a much more difficult balancing act to perform here, but I would like to see the Government of the Northwest Territories inasmuch as possible trying to take a lead role because whether we like it or not that deadline for 1999 is coming up quickly and we have to be prepared. I'm certainly prepared as a Member or as a leader to take a key role in constitutional development initiatives. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Like I said in my speech, I believe that constitutional development is something that has to happen and we have to proceed with it in a timely manner. We have to set goals that we can meet and goals that we can achieve so that people in the Northwest Territories, especially in the Western Arctic, can see us achieve those goals. I use the example of naming the Western Territory by April 1, 1996. That, to me, sounds like a reasonable goal to achieve. But we also have to ensure that our aboriginal self- government talks are going along fine, our aboriginal self- government talks are going ahead with the federal government. We have to work with our aboriginal people in partnership to ensure that that process happens at the same time the constitutional process happens and that one doesn't move ahead. The constitutional process doesn't move ahead of the aboriginal self-government process or else it will never work. That's the key and those are the challenges we have.

What I've been hearing in the last week about everybody willing to work together, I think we have a real good chance of making it work. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Mr. Henry, followed by Mr. Steen. Mr. Henry.

Expectations Of Cabinet Ministers
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My first question will be directed to both candidates seeking the position of Premier. Later on today and possibly tomorrow, individuals will be putting their name forward as Cabinet Ministers. What I would like to know from each of the candidates for our Premier, in turn, would be what do you expect from your Cabinet Ministers.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mrs. Groenewegen.

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

I expect the people who are elected to Cabinet to work together in good faith and cooperation, and I also expect hard work. I know it was a problem that was brought to light sometimes in the previous government where you had some very hard-working Members and what happened was they ended up carrying more than their share of the load. I would like to say that this Cabinet, I think, should be prepared, whoever is putting their name forward should be prepared to pull their weight and to do what has to be done to get the job done, and that hard work is one thing that definitely comes to mind. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, too, expect Cabinet Ministers to work hard, work together as a team and to ensure that they work on behalf of the people in the Northwest Territories in a fair manner; that's very key. And to have respect for each other and to support each other, that's also very important. But once we set the direction for the new government -- and all 24 of us are going to do that -- then it's up to Cabinet to move ahead and make sure that direction is carried out. So I'm going to expect Cabinet Ministers to make sure that they stay on top of their departments and portfolios that they have, and that they push and make sure things get done in a proper time frame, and that the job gets done; that's very key. You have to be able to be forceful with the civil service, and you have to ensure that once the Legislative Assembly has made a decision and once Cabinet has made a decision, then you go out and do the job. Don't come back with a bunch of excuses for why it can't be done, just go out and do it. Thank you.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My second question again is directed to both candidates seeking the position of Premier. I would like to know from them under what circumstances would you demand the resignation of a Minister.

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The Chair Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If a Minister is charged and found guilty of some offence, I will expect his resignation immediately. If a Minister does not act according to our conduct guidelines and if a Minister doesn't show up for work, the Minister has to be held accountable. You have to show up for work every day. You have to pull your weight. It will never work unless we all pull our equal weight. So Ministers have to produce and Ministers have to be committed to the job. If a Member expects to get in as a Minister and come to work three or four hours a day, good bye. Give me someone else, it's a simple as that. Thank you.