Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Government Services, with input from the Department of Social Services, prepare a proposal to increase liquor revenues to fund alcohol abuse prevention programs for the 1993-94 Main Estimates review.
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Committee Motion 212-12(2): To Adopt Recommendation No. 45
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Thank you. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next motion has to do with petroleum products. Mr. Chairman, the previous Assembly approved a motion that petroleum rates be subject to the Public Utilities Board approval. The government has indicated that this issue is being considered as part of an overall review of the petroleum delivery function.
However, this was not shown as an objective of the department in the 1992-93 Main Estimates. The committee is also concerned that the division should have an independent review of its costs effectiveness.
Committee Motion 213-12(2): To Adopt Recommendation No. 46
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommends that the Department of Government Services include objectives in the 1993-94 Main Estimates to review the petroleum delivery function, conduct an independent review of its cost effectiveness and subject petroleum rates to the Public Utilities Board, akin to the Power Corporation.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Motion is in order. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Finance's final motion regarding this department has to do with, as usual, measuring output and effect. The committee wishes to know what the department will accomplish with the money put into government service programs?
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommend that the Department of Government Services report as a minimum, the following performance measurements in the 1993-94 Main Estimates:
1. An indicator of the level of satisfaction of departments and agencies with the Department of Government Services support;
2. Purchasing turn around time;
3. Import replacement;
4. Achievement of cost savings; and
5. Petroleum product customer satisfaction.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour. All those opposed. Motion is carried.
---Carried.
That concludes the report of the standing committee. Is it agreed that the witnesses be brought into the committee?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Sergeant-at-Arms, can you escort the witnesses, please?
Mr. Minister, could you introduce the witnesses, please?
Department Of Government Services
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to introduce Mr. Bob Doherty, Deputy Minister on my left, and Mr. Lee Horn, Associate Deputy Minister, Government Services and Public Works.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Are there any general comments? Is it agreed that we get into detail?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Page 09-8, government services, total O and M, directorate, $2,494 million. Are we agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Systems and computer services, total O and M $4.040 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Supply services. Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, every year we have been purchasing computers, and I am just wondering if the
government is getting more modern equipment, is that why the cost is so high, with regard to computers?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
This is the O and M, I believe the capital is the matter of purchasing. However, Mr. Minister.
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under systems and computer services, the departments pay for their own computers, and it is modernization, as well, computers wear out and blow up.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Gargan. Okay, thank you, very much. Total O and M $4.040 million. Are we agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Supply and services, total O and M $8.047. Mr. Gargan.