Mr. Gargan.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, just with regard to this area. I realize that this capital budget was probably planned during the spring time, but since that time we did have several spills on the Mackenzie itself and I think there was one in Bathurst Strait too. There is equipment required, but when that equipment is designated for headquarters we really do not address the situations at the community level. I think the highway system near Fort Providence and the water system in Fort Providence requires that there should be some equipment
stationed in a centralized location of the transportation route. Perhaps this is something the department should be looking at for an emergency strategy plan. There should be a plan and equipment to deal with those types of emergencies. Thank you.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
I think I would be safe to say that the majority of communities in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Chairman, have a local emergency plan. Of course there is a procedure that if the community cannot handle it then it is passed off to the region. If the region cannot handle it, it is passed off to headquarters. The incident that Mr. Gargan draws attention to, the spill on the river, did not necessarily fall within the boundaries of this particular department. It is under the federal Coast Guard. At the same time I think the Member raises a good point that when there are overlapping jurisdictions we have to be ready to lock ourselves into the system that is in place. So I will ask the department if they will go back and check on those liaisons with federal agencies in case such an incident happens again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Total region $87,000. Agreed?
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Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Total buildings and works, headquarters, $87,000. Agreed?
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Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Equipment acquisition, directorate, total region $30,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Total acquisition of equipment $30,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Total activity $117,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Community Works And Capital Planning
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Planning, buildings and works, headquarters, total region $190,000. Agreed? Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask a general question in regard to the coordination between various government departments. In some areas where there is winter road construction, how is the department coordinating with other departments so that they can utilize things like winter road access, etc.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, with regard to winter roads, obviously that is the Department of Transportation. What normally happens is that Transportation is the lead department and coordinates with the other departments the timing, assembling, scheduling of getting all of those departments, whether it is the Housing Corporation or Municipal and Community Affairs to assemble all the equipment which might move in on that winter road. It is incumbent upon departments to cooperate, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Capital works, buildings, headquarters. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Since Municipal and Community Affairs are providing some capital items to my region, Mr. Chairman, could the Minister indicate to me how they are planning to bring in those capital items which are in their budget? I understand that the winter road is the responsibility of Transportation. How is M.A.C.A. anticipating bringing in their capital items?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, if I could ask to which community the Member is referring?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, one of my communities in my riding and also the other riding of Sahtu where they put a winter road in. In those two areas how is M.A.C.A. anticipating to bring in their capital equipment or items?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.