Sorry, Mr. Kakfwi, we have passed that item. You understand the rules to get back to that item. Item 15, Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills. Item 16, Motions, Motion 1-12(3) Political and Constitutional Development Debate will no longer be on the order paper. Item 17, First Reading of Bills. Item 18, Second Reading of Bills. Mr. Kakfwi.

Mr. Kakfwi, your motion is in order. To the principle of the bill.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Bill 6 has had second reading and accordingly the bill stands referred to a committee. Item 18, Second Reading of Bills. Mr. Whitford.

Mr. Whitford, your motion is in order. To the principle of the bill.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried Bill 7 has had second reading and accordingly the bill stands referred to a committee. Item 19, Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters. Committee Report 1-12(3), Standing Committee on Finance Report on the Review of the 1993-94 Capital Estimates, and Bill 1 Appropriation Act, No. 1, 1993-94, with Mr. Ningark in the Chair.

Thank you for your attention. I call this committee to order. Yesterday when we adjourned for the day we were discussing the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and we were in general comments. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Todd.

Can we proceed with M.A.C.A., Mr. Chairman, if that is alright with everyone?

Do we have the committee's concurrence that we will continue with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs? Mr. Pollard.

Mr. Chairman, Mr. Allooloo is not present in the House today. Much to the nervousness of Mr. Menard who is sitting quaking in the gallery, I would be prepared to pinch hit for Mr. Allooloo if the committee agreed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Todd.

We agree and we understand the eloquence of Mr. Pollard and his depth of understanding of the government departments. We have no problem with that.

Thank you, in order to give Mr. Menard a little more time to think about this, we will take a 15 minute break.

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The committee will now come back to order. The time out is really never long enough to recuperate but we have work to do here. Mr. Pollard requested that he bring the department officials in. Mr. Pollard.

That is correct, Mr. Chairman.

Proceed. Thank you. For the record Mr. Minister would you please introduce the witnesses?

Department Of Municipal And Community Affairs

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I have Mr. Al Menard, the Deputy Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and to my left is Mr. Vern Christensen, the Assistant Deputy Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you. Mr. Menard and Mr. Christensen welcome to the committee. We were at the general comments for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs 1993-94 Capital Estimates. Are there any further general comments? Mr. Nerysoo.

General Comments

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I did want to make a couple of comments. I am not a Member of the Standing Committee on Finance but I do support the motions which have come forward so far. I want to indicate that I have read the documentation and the recommendations and I support all of the recommendations which have been made.

There are a couple of issues which are not in the capital plan for this particular year nor do I see it in the anticipated expenditures. It deals with the matter of the water intake system in Fort McPherson. I want to recommend to the Minister and probably to the government and the Standing Committee on Finance that somehow there be an assurance or some planning dollars set aside to address the matter of the water intake lake in Fort McPherson. Over the past several years there have been floods in Fort McPherson and the water has risen to a point where the sewage lake has been draining into the intake water system or into that particular lake. The environmental assessments which have been done suggest there is no problem with the water but it is pretty difficult to convince the people of Fort McPherson that there is no problem when they see the water draining into that particular lake.

In the newer portion of the community the drainage is actually going into the creek which leads to the water intake lakes. There could be some problems. It is a concern of the community. I do not necessarily suggest that you immediately find the dollars in this particular capital activity or plan, but I do ask that you consider seriously that you find the planning money to deal with this matter on an ongoing basis with a view of hopefully finding the capital dollars to relocate the intake lake at some time.

Thank you. Mr. Minister, would you like to make a comment?