Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommend that the government review the proposed respite care policy developed by the N.W.T. Council for Disabled Persons and move to implement it.
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Committee Motion 56-12(3): G.n.w.t. Review Proposed Respite Care Policy
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Motion is in order. To the motion.
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Also noted in our committee report was the issue of community counselling. In every community different people told us that they thought that people within the community could provide a service to others in that community. They thought it was important to have people who were culturally aware, involved in counselling and that it was more important that they be aware of the culture in which they are working than that they have professional training. For the most part, they suggested that these counsellors could work with trained counsellors and, perhaps, both sides might learn from each other. I think this is a novel idea but I think it is something that really needs some careful investigation. It might not only be cost effective but it might be a lot more effective than what we are getting right now.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee urge the government to look into a pilot project involving the provision of para-professional counselling at the community level. The project must include the provision of ongoing training and support to community care givers to ensure maximum benefits. An evaluation component needs to be built in to ensure that assessments can be made as to the success of the initiative.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Arvaluk.
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I hope this recommendation, when it is being implemented, will touch on the problem that the care givers are facing with Social Services, especially in the area of payments to the care givers. For example, in Coral Harbour, one care giver was not paid for six months.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What we found when we were talking to the people in the communities is that elders are often involved in counselling. One of the concerns was that while these may be effective people, it is quite an imposition on them and their time to do it voluntarily. This is only happening voluntarily. Our intent with this was to suggest that these people should become an active part of the Social Services network. They would not be expected to do it on a voluntary basis but be considered a real part of the whole counselling system in the Northwest Territories. I think that this would address the concern which Mr. Arvaluk has brought up.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Arngna'naaq.
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Silas Arngna'naaq Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Dent has pointed out that there were a number of concerns in this particular area. The other area which is of concern to people in Baker Lake and Arviat is about the caring of elders who remain in their homes. In the fall before the elders' centre opened in Arviat, there was an elder who was not able to care for himself. He died in a fire because there was no one in the house with him. The relatives who were taking care of him had gone out on an errand and then a fire started. It is essential to have these types of services available to people who are unable to do anything within their households. I will give this my support. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. To the motion.
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An Hon. Member
Question.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
---Carried
Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Are there any general comments? Does the committee agree that Committee Report 5-12(3), Special Committee on Health and Social Services, is concluded?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Mr. Chairman, I would recommend that the committee proceed to deal with the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions, Report on the Elimination of the Board of Directors for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Does this committee agree that we deal with Committee Report 6-12(3)? Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Committee Report 6-12(3): Standing Committee On Agencies, Boards And Commissions, Report On The Proposed Elimination Of The Board Of Directors For The Northwest Territories Housing Corporation
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Are there opening remarks? Mr. Koe.
Introductory Remarks
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have a fairly lengthy report and I am going to utilize the help of my colleagues. I will start with the introductory remarks.
One of the advantages of the consensus style government practised in the Northwest Territories is the opportunity it provides for Ministers and standing committees to collaborate on the development and the implementation of initiatives aimed at improving public service operations and government agencies. During the Third Session of the 12th Legislative Assembly, the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions will agree to respond to requests from the Executive Council for input respecting the proposed elimination of three boards.
The current report recommends the standing committee's review of the Minister's plans to eliminate the Board of Directors of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. Subsequent reports will deal with input requests regarding the Denendeh Conservation Board and the Student Financial Assistance Board. The standing committee received correspondence on March 26, 1992 from the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, which requested the committee's assistance in establishing the process whereby the board would be eliminated, but replaced with a more appropriate mechanism to ensure that we have community participation and ongoing policy decisions of the corporation.
The standing committee considered this request briefly at meetings held during the Second Session of the 12th Legislative Assembly and made a decision to work with the Minister by reviewing his proposal in this regard. Accordingly, the standing committee has undertaken and has now completed a review of the principles underlying ministerial plans to eliminate the Board of Directors of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. Throughout its review process the standing committee focused on the following aspects: background developments and government directions would precede receipt of the Minister's request for committee input; the rationale for consideration of the elimination of the Board of Directors; the impact of board elimination on the potential effectiveness, efficiency and economy of operations within the Housing Corporation; trends in other Canadian jurisdictions with respect to the organization of housing agencies; and, the development of an alternative framework for ensuring appropriate levels of community and regional input into policies and decisions made within the Housing Corporation.
The Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions considered these matters in lengthy meetings with the Minister and his Housing Corporation officials on October 27, 1992, and December 2, 1992. The committee wishes to acknowledge the significant amount of information provided by the Minister and his officials that the committee requested and a constructive fashion in which this review was proceed.
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Ningark will continue.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Ningark.