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Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

In their analysis when they developed their plan, Mr. Chairman, do they take into consideration the existence of communities that have been in the Territories? Do they take into consideration the needs of the communities? That particular highway from Fort Smith to the Pine Point junction was probably there longer than the Pine Point highway itself, and it seems like the Pine Point highway got paving and ours has only been ad hoc, if I can use the word, partially paved. What seems to be some of the points here is that this government addresses areas and the way they spend their money, areas of pavement or areas of highways; I think the Minister is trying to say to me that the demand is not as great. How do we anticipate the demand to be great if people know they have to travel on this highway which is a gravel highway? In regard to safety, why has he not taken that into consideration, the number of people who have got into accidents on the gravel highway. It would be interesting to know what the Minister's plans are from the Pine Point turnoff to Fort Resolution. There is probably no consideration on paving on that highway until after the year 2000, by the way their department officials seem to plan.

As for the Minister stating that they have to do construction in areas where it is too narrow to pave, there are very few parts, if any, where construction needs to be done, because that highway base has been there for so long. To state that it is too narrow to pave, I do not agree with that. Because it is not too narrow to pave.

But what I do want to obtain from the Minister is whether the Minister will make a commitment to review his departmental plans, his transportation strategy which I know he has in place, which even has a highway from here to the Keewatin, which I do not know if they will achieve. But I want to know if he will make a commitment to review his departmental plan and determine whether his department can finish the paving that he started back in 1985, before 1997?

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Minister.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we will review the plans for paving and reconstruction of Highway No. 5. As for the Fort Resolution highway, our tentative plan tells us that the paving and reconstruction of the highway would be the same as that of Fort Smith.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. General comments. Member for Thebacha.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Just for clarification, Mr. Speaker. Did the Minister indicate that he will review the plans to look at that highway prior to its being considered for paving in 1997?

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Mr. Minister.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

We will look at our plans again, yes.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. General comments. Member for Nahendeh.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have some comments on Transportation. My constituency is fortunate to have highways, and it is very important for us to have them.have highways, and it is very important for us to have them. We also have airports, but I will speak on the highways first. Presently, we have all-weather highways connecting us into BC and to Enterprise. My main concern on the highways is that I would like to see the highway completed into Wrigley. I am also very interested in having this government pursue completing the highway into Fort Norman, Norman Wells and eventually all the way down the Mackenzie Valley.

I know that there is highway going into the Delta from the Yukon, but I think if a highway is eventually built down the valley it will greatly benefit the whole valley, especially the communities of Fort Norman, Norman Wells, Fort Franklin and, course, Wrigley as well. They would greatly benefit from such an infrastructure because it would open up the country. The tourists would like to come into our area and that would be good for the tourist industry. It would be an infrastructure that would generate economic development by utilizing the resources that are in the valley. My main concern is mainly a long-range kind of thing that I would like to see eventually.

I know that people in the past have raised this issue many times. I want to put on record that I am very supportive of such a highway being built. I heard from the Minister of Transportation and the Minister of Economic Development when I mentioned that, and their answer was, "That highway along the valley is included with a highway to the Kitikmeotarea and also the Keewatin area." Realistically, the most realistic approach to it is to complete that highway down the valley first, and that is the point that I want to make.

I would like to see some initiative from the government to eventually complete this highway, but we do it a little bit at a time, and the little bit I am talking about is completing that bridge at Willowlake River. It was planned, from what I understand, for some time, and the people in Wrigley told me as soon as I got elected that that bridge was supposed to be going in this year. I am told it was bumped back by one year and that there are some funds in there to do developmental work on it. It is a positive thing that it is going to happen, because they have been planning to put a bridge in, and it is like inching along up the valley. At least it is initiative, but I would like to see a bigger approach than that. I know there is money in the budget this year to do some developmental work at the Willowlake River, but it would be very positive for us if it was more than what it is, in there.

For the highway north of Wrigley to Fort Norman, years ago when the highway was put into my region it was built through a Hire North project of the federal government, and the local people worked and built the roads there. The right-of-way clearing, all the big trees, have been cleared all the way to Fort Norman from Wrigley already. I have travelled on that winter road, and it is obvious that some money was spent to clear the right of way many years ago. Of course, it was so long ago that willows have grown on this right-of-way and it needs to be cleared again, but all the bigger trees have been cut down, so there has been a start in that direction.

My point is that there was some money spent on the beginning of the highway from Wrigley to Fort Norman already, because the right of way has already been cleared, and it is just a matter of doing some more work.

I have got a letter here from 1985. I think that was the last time I could find out that there were some figures on how much it would cost at that time to build a highway from Wrigley to Norman Wells, and the figure for different sized roads -- I think the widest one is 10.4 meters wide, and it is $156,172,000. The second widest is 8,5 meters wide. It is 18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and $145,569,000. For 7.3 meters wide, it is $136,912,000. These are the figures I have been able to find, but they are 1985figures and since that time, with inflation, it has probably jumped quite a bit.

Motion To Advance Arviat Water Supply Improvements To 1992-93, Carried
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

The hour is now 6:00 o' clock and the Chair will rise and report progress.

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Item 19, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Chairman.

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Committee Report 5-12(2), Bill 14, and Committee Report 3-12(2), and wishes to report that Committee Report 5-of 12(2) is concluded and seven motions have been adopted. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of committee of the whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Is there a seconder to the motion? Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

Item 20, third reading of bills. Third reading of bills. Item 21, orders of the day. Mr. Clerk.

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker, there will be a meeting of the standing committee on legislation after adjournment this evening and of the ordinary Members' caucus at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning.

Item 21: Orders Of The Day
Item 21: Orders Of The Day

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Orders of the day for Friday, March 6, 1992.

1 . Prayer

2. Ministers' Statements

3. Members' Statements

4. Returns to Oral Questions

5. Oral Questions

6. Written Questions

7. Returns to Written Questions

8. Replies to Opening Address

9. Petitions

10. Reports of Standing and Special Committees

11. Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

12. Tabling of Documents

13. Notices of Motions

14. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills

15. Motions: Motion 6-12(2)

16. First Reading of Bills: Bill 20 and Bill 21

17. Second Reading of Bills

18. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and

Other Matters: Tabled Documents 9-12(2), 10-12(2)

and 12-12(2); Bill 14; Committee Report 3-12(2) 19. Report of Committee of the Whole

20. Third Reading of Bills

21. Orders of the Day

Item 21: Orders Of The Day
Item 21: Orders Of The Day

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House adjourned until 10:00 a.m., Friday, March 6, 1992.

--- ADJOURNMENT