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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Economic Development and Tourism gave money, and I want to say $50,000, although I will check that number, to Prospects North, to assist them with their conference. To my knowledge, sir -- and I will check again -- I do not believe that we assisted the Soviets. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Mr. Koe.

Question O566-12(2): Status Of "working Toward A Common Future"
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In April, a report entitled Working Toward a Common Future, which was prepared by the Commission for Constitutional Development, was completed and distributed widely across the Northwest Territories to residents. My question is to the Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs. What is the status of this report?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the report was given to the committee of political leaders this spring, and it was agreed at that meeting that all the members of the political committee -- the Inuvialuit, the Dene Nation, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the Sahtu Tribal Council, the Metis Nation, and the Members of the Legislature -- would take time over the next few months to bring the report to the attention of their constituents, and the expectation would be that the Dene Nation, the Metis Association, and the Inuvialuit, in particular, would be expected to take the lead in discussing and responding to the recommendations within that commission report.

It was my view that because of the rather intense schedule that the constitutional talks had placed on myself and the members of the staff I work with, that it was not realistic to think we could have staff give adequate time and attention to providing an analysis and critique of the report on any short order. So I had served notice that probably sometime this summer we would be in a better position to provide Members of the Legislature and the public with cabinet's view; and whatever way the Legislature may choose, follow that on what to do with this commission report.

That was the way in which the report was left. It was brought to the attention of the committee of political leaders. There were no decisions made, other than that we would take time and it would be brought back to our respective constituents for review and discussion. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Koe

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When will Members of this Assembly get an opportunity to discuss this report?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I was of the view that, without wanting to prejudice the discussion that could happen within the membership of the Dene Nation, the Metis Nation and the other aboriginal organizations, we should allow these groups and organizations to take the lead in the discussions. I think we would all benefit as a Legislature if we allowed, for instance, the Dene Nation and the Metis Assembly this summer to discuss it, since they have some equal ownership to the recommendations and observations contained within the report. Politically, I thought it would be wiser for us to allow that to happen. Then perhaps we could have our own discussion in the fall session. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As Minister responsible, you received criticisms from several aboriginal organizations when this report was being developed, specifically from the Dene Nation, Metis Nation and Deh Cho Tribal Council. Could you enlighten this House as to your position on some of these allegations from these groups?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

I have a problem with that question, and I will ask the honourable Member to rephrase that question because questions should not refer to allegations.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I am still learning. There were letters received from the Deh Cho Tribal Council and press statements made by the Metis Nation and Dene Nation regarding the Minister's position on working toward a common future. Can the Minister enlighten the House as to his position on these positions presented by these organizations?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the only letter that we got from the Deh Cho in regard to constitutional talks was in relation to the national constitutional talks that were happening in Ottawa, not on the process set up by the Western Constitutional Commission. The text of the letter basically said they were serving notice to the world that as far as the Deh Cho chiefs were concerned, I personally and as Minister of Intergovernmental and Aboriginal Affairs did not represent the treaty interests of the Dene in constitutional talks. It is an understanding that everyone has had for many, many years, but they felt reason to reiterate that. It has always been understood that the chiefs and treaty Dene are represented by their chiefs, by the Dene Nation and by the Assembly of First Nations in national constitutional talks.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Your last supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will there be a phase

two of this process?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, when the commission was set up, it was done in the closing hours of the last Legislative Assembly. I think Members will recall that in the last session there were some questions as to why funding was provided the way it was and, for instance, why there was no funding given for a public campaign on the plebiscite in the West. These were matters that the last Legislature did in haste, and the budget that was provided for the commission was supported by the eastern Members because they were anxious to get on with Nunavut and the plebiscite, and they understood and supported the need on the part of the western MLAs to come up with a process, to begin a process to begin work on a constitution for a western territory.

Since then, as you know, the commission has spent its money and we have gone into a deficit budget. So when we had a meeting with the political leaders, part of my argument for taking time over the spring and summer to review the commission report and to allow it to go to the assemblies and to have the aboriginal organizations took at it carefully, is that in my view, if there is going to be a phase two, it has to be a very well thought out, well coordinated, package deal that has the full support of the Inuvialuit, the Metis, the Dene, and the different organizations that represent the Dene, and, as well, it has to be clear and understood by the Members of this Legislature. They do not want to jeopardize the ongoing work required for the western part of the Territories to work on a constitution by puffing a hastily developed package together. So I think whatever we do, it is going to take some argument to get all Members to provide funding for continuing on to phase two of the constitutional process.

So that was the reason for it. I think there will be an ongoing stage because that is one of the conditions for division: that there be an acceptable constitution developed for the western territory before division should proceed.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

I would like to take this opportunity to welcome a former colleague to the Legislative Assembly, a cabinet Minister holding many portfolios, a friend to all living things, Mr. Gordon Wray.

--- Applause

Mr. Lewis.

Question O567-12(2): Aven Seniors' Centre, Yellowknife
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June 17th, 1992

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Social Services. I have indicated that the Aven Seniors' Centre faces a deficit of over $54,000 this year as a result of a reduction of commitment by his department to the running of that centre. There has also been a reduction by CMHC of over $2000 a month. If the centre decides to increase the amount of monthly cost from $376 per month, then that will cause a reduction in the amount of commitment Social Services will make to the centre. And since there are as many as six people on the waiting list, does the Minister have any contingency plans so that those six people can be looked after somewhere else if this centre cannot fund the operation properly?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Whitford

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have the specific details on individuals. However, I am aware of the problem that the Aven Seniors' Centre is facing financially. I have met with the board personally on a couple of occasions, and so have the senior staff of my department, to discuss this matter. We are working on trying to resolve this unfortunate combination of events. As the Member points out, I do not have a contingency plan, because I am not aware of a plan.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Lewis.

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Has the Minister, though, since he is aware of the situation - although he may not have all the details, he is aware of this principle, that if the centre decides to raise the amount, even a small amount - is he still committed to the principle that whatever they can raise has to be reduced from the contribution made by his department to that centre?