Mr. Nerysoo, Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Mr. Gargan, Mr. Zoe, Mr. Koe, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Todd, Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Arvaluk, Mr. Pollard, Ms. Cournoyea, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Patterson, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Dent, and Ms. Mike.
Debates of Sept. 22nd, 1992
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Motion 35-12(2): Action By The Government Of Canada In The Yellowknife Mine Dispute
Item 15: Motions
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Motion 35-12(2): Action By The Government Of Canada In The Yellowknife Mine Dispute
Item 15: Motions
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The Speaker Ludy Pudluk
All those against, please stand. All those abstaining? All those in favour is 19; all those against is zero; all those abstaining is zero. Motion is carried unanimously.
---Carried
Thank you. Item 15, motions. Item 16, first reading of bills. Item 17, second reading of bills. Item 18, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters, tabled document 9-12(2), tabled document 10-12(2), tabled document 61-12(2), motion 6, committee report 10-12(2), committee report 17-12(2), committee report 18-12(2), bill 9, bill 31, bill 33, Member's statement 82-12(2). Mr. Nerysoo in the Chair.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. If I could call the committee to order. Members will recall that we were dealing with committee report 17-12(2), and bill 33. What is the wish of the committee? Is it the wish of the committee that we continue? Mr. Pollard.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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John Pollard Hay River
That is a good idea, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you very much. There is agreement to proceed with those two documents. We were still on general comments and we were dealing with the Department of Education. In order to give people an opportunity to get their thoughts together, I will take a break.
---Applause
---SHORT RECESS
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Can I call the committee to order? Dealing with the Department of Education. Mr. Minister, do you wish to have witnesses in the committee?
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Yes please, I would like to call on my witnesses, and myself, to the witness table.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you, is it agreed that witnesses be invited into the committee?
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Agreed. Sergeant-at-Arms, could you escort the witnesses, please?
I call the committee to order. While I do not intend to intervene in the matter of general comments, I would encourage Members to deal with matters that are specific to the department heads, if we get into that. My own general policy is that I think that the Members can deal generally with those issues. I wanted to make that note.
On general comments, Mr. Zoe.
Department of Education
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, on Friday, I raised a number of concerns pertaining to the Department of Education. We were notified at that time, that an accident had taken place and we adjourned for the day.
Had the Minister concluded in responding to the concerns that I had raised on Friday?
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Mr. Chairman, I was not clear on the question. Could the Member repeat his question? Thank you.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Zoe, could you ask the questions that you are referring to again, for the clarification for the Minister. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, on Friday the Minister was responding to one of the questions that I had raised in regard to the Northern Leaders Program, and also on the issue of the T.E.P. program. We were interrupted, when we heard the news of the accident which occurred at the mine. I was not sure if the Minister had concluded his remarks at that time. I am just asking if he was finished with his concluding remarks on Friday, to the questions that I had raised?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you, Mr. Zoe. Mr. Minister.
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Mr. Chairman, yes, I had concluded my remarks, after we recessed.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Sorry, Mr. Minister. Are there any other general comments? Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
I will not continue to pursue this, Mr. Chairman. I will let other Members speak to that issue, but another concern that I had in regards to this department, was the curriculum development for the Dene languages, particularly the Dogrib.
Mr. Chairman, I understand that the department has a number of training centres throughout the territories. For instance, I have one in my region, in Rae-Edzo, and I understand that they are working towards developing a curriculum. Could the Minister give us an update on what the department is doing on curriculum development for Dene languages in education?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Specifically on the Dene Kede kindergarten to grade six piloting, in September of 1992, on the full implementation in
September of 1993, what we are doing in this case is trying it out, and if the reports from those communities and divisional boards are successful, and they say that this is a good curriculum, then we will have a full implementation in September of 1993. Also, on the Dene Kede from grade 7 to 12, planning for development is not scheduled for 1992-93. That is only on Dene curriculum development, not including other curriculum development that we have in Inuktitut, or the social studies format.
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Zoe, general comments.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, I am having a difficult time with the Dene languages. I know that we have amalgamated the Department of Culture and Communications with the Department of Education. Hopefully they will become closer together. Culture and Communications also administers the service delivery for aboriginal languages, interpreting, and translating services.
One of the questions that I wanted to ask was, years ago when they started funding this program, there were certain initiatives that were being undertaken by the department, and by Culture and Communications. For instance, there was a dictionary that came out in the Slavey language, and at that time I understood that the government was working on developing the other aboriginal languages. For instance, the Dogrib language, where they would put together a dictionary, and also start developing a curriculum in the Dogrib language.
Another thing that they were working on was to standardize the Dene languages. Now, I would like to ask how far are they in standardizing all of these Dene languages?
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The Chair Richard Nerysoo
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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James Arvaluk Aivilik
Mr. Chairman, I understand that after we have dealt with Arctic College, we will also be going into culture on Saturday, and the department can we deal with that at the time, so that we can deal with it more in detail with the different witnesses. Mr. Chairman.