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Committee Motion 163-12(2): To Adopt Recommendation #59
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, regarding the agencies, the appropriate aboriginal organizations, it also talks about agencies in here. The agencies that are being referred to, are to coordinate and develop a policy, receive proposals, and negotiate.

I would hope, that when we are negotiating, that we do not undermine the band councils, and that by virtue of this motion, I want to also state clearly that when we talk about aboriginal organizations, it is exactly what it says. We are not talking about organizations, such as those created by this government, as agencies or boards. What I am referring to is such organizations as the hunters and trappers, or local education authorities, those kind of agencies. We must be clear that we know that we are talking about aboriginal governments, or aboriginal organizations, for the purpose of this motion, when we refer to aboriginal organizations, then the committee will also refer to the band councils.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion has been carried.

---Carried

We will take a 15 minute recess.

---SHORT RECESS

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

I would like to call this committee back to order. We are still dealing with the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will carry on with the presentation of resolutions arising out of the Standing Committee on Finance meetings to review the budget. At our meetings, Mr. Chairman, the committee stated that we very strongly believe that the government should be encouraging the development of the private housing, homeownership market, as evidenced by recommendations of the N.W.T. Housing Corporation and Department of Public Works, with respect to public and staff housing.

Committee Motion 164-12(2): To Adopt Recommendation #60
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September 23rd, 1992

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Reducing the property tax rebate contradicts any such initiative and more importantly it was done without any consultation. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee recommends, that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs restore the Homeowner's Property Tax Rebate, and work with communities to encourage development of the private homeownership market.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We have heard from many sources that this government wants to encourage the private homeownership market, and the property tax rebate was introduced, by the government, as a measure to increase private ownership, it was a method of encouraging the private ownership of homes in the north.

As the Minister pointed out in his opening remarks, this is going to save the government $245,000, which in comparison to the amount of deficit, is insignificant. We think it is a step in the wrong direction when it comes to encouraging people to own their own homes. The other thing, is that it was undertaken without any consultation. There was never any notice given to municipalities, that this sort of initiative was going to be stopped. There was no consultation with M.L.A.s, and this is one of those areas in which, especially, those of us within the tax-based municipalities, can certainly feel some effect. I know that everybody who represents a tax-based municipality has had calls, and letters from people who were quite shocked that this had taken place, that the government was going to cut the rebate. There was never an announcement. The only time the people found out, was when they went into the municipality to apply for the rebate, and found out that on the form, it was for $300 this year, instead of $400. I think it is sending out the wrong message. If we want to encourage people to own their own homes, you do not start cutting back on programs that were initiated in order to encourage them to do it. I would hope that the government will consider reinstating it, especially in light of this motion. Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

To the motion. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I agree, and support the motion. Maybe there can be cost savings in other ways, if the total tax rebate were increased back to the amount it was before, of $400. One of the ways, I would suggest, is the administration of the rebates be changed. The current process is, that tax payers pay their taxes to the town or municipality, they then fill out a form saying they would like a rebate from the tax authority, the taxing authority then has to send the information to this government, who in turn rebates the town, or the taxing authority, and they in turn then rebate the individuals.

It is a lot of paperwork, a lot of time lags, and my recommendation to this is that the government reviews the administrative processes to ease some of this paperwork burden, look at how other municipalities, or other provincial authorities reimburse municipalities. I think when the municipality, or taxing authority issues us the tax bills to invoice the tax payer, that they deduct the money at source, off the bill, it is a net bill, they then submit the information to the government and they get one cheque. I think that the government, should consider this. Thank you.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Recently there have been a rise in the number of local emergencies, such as in Fort Simpson and Rankin Inlet, etc., and emergency response measures have been criticized. For a simple example, currently local authorities can only approve expenditures on emergency measures up to $1,000. Committee Members expressed concern that we must be better prepared to reasonably deal with such situations.

Committee Motion 165-12(2): To Adopt Recommendation #61
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move, that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs review the Emergency Measures Program by March 31, 1993, with the intent of becoming better prepared to deal with local emergencies.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The committee is also concerned with reductions in the budget for Recreation Subsidy Programs, especially after the government has invested considerable capital funds in building recreation infrastructure.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Therefore, Mr. Chairman, I move, that this committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs restore the funding to Recreation Subsidy Programs in the 1993-94 Main Estimates.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair Ludy Pudluk

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Are there any further comments? Mr. Dent.