I agree with my colleague.
Debates of Sept. 25th, 1992
Topics
Motion 37-12(2): Additional Sitting Hours
Item 15: Motions
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne
Mr. Ningark, you have the opportunity to conclude the debate. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
---Carried
Item 15, motions. Item 16, first reading of bills. Item 17, second reading of bills. Item 18, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters, tabled document 9-12(2), Strength at Two Levels; tabled document 10-12(2), Reshaping Northern Government; tabled document 62-12(2), Report on Northwest Territories Operations at Expo '92 as at May 31, 1992; tabled document 70-12(2), "The Justice House", Report of the Special Advisory on Gender Equality; motion 6, Discussion on Sobriety Clause in Contribution Agreements; committee report 10-12(2), Special Committee on Constitutional Reform Report on the Multilateral Conferences on the Constitution; committee report 17-12(2), Report on the Review of the 1992-93 Main Estimates; committee report 18-12(2), Multilateral Meetings on the Constitution and First Ministers' - Aboriginal Leaders' Conference on the Constitution; Bill 9, An Act to Amend the Insurance Act; Bill 31, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act; Bill 33, Appropriation Act No. 2, 1992-93; Minister's statement 82-12(2), Update on National Constitutional Reform Negotiations; with Mr. Ningark in the Chair.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
The committee will now come to order. Yesterday, when we concluded, we were dealing with the Department of Renewable Resources, 1992-93 main estimates, and we were in general comments. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Todd.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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John Todd Keewatin Central
That we proceed where we left off yesterday, please.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Todd. I understand that there is going to be a very quick meeting of Dene and Metis Members, and I would like to take about a 15 minute recess, before we proceed with the matter.
---SHORT RECESS
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Should we begin?
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
The committee will now come to order. Yesterday, as I mentioned earlier, we were discussing the Department of Renewable Resources 1992-93 main estimates and we were in general comments. General Comments. Mr. Todd.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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John Todd Keewatin Central
I think, if we can, Mr. Chairman, I would like to move line by line.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Activity by activity?
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Both. Sorry, Mr. Bernhardt, you still have some comments?
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Bernhardt.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Ernie Bernhardt Kitikmeot
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yesterday, I had some questions for the Minister.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Yes, Mr. Minister. Pardon me.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With your permission, I would like to bring in some witnesses.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Proceed, Mr. Minister.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Minister, I do not know your Deputy Minister. Would you, for the record, introduce your witnesses, please?
Department Of Renewable Resources
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To my left is the Deputy Minister of the department, Mr. Joe Handley, and to my right, is the Director of Finance of the department, Mr. Rick Feil.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Before I recognize Mr. Bernhardt, I would like the committee to join me in recognizing the hard working group of pages, and their Sergeant-at-Arms. We should encourage them for the good job they do in the House.
---Applause
Thank you. Mr. Bernhardt.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Ernie Bernhardt Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one question for the Minister responsible for Renewable Resources. The riding that I represent, the Kitikmeot, there is a mine within my riding, Lupin Mine, Echo Bay Mines, and I am wondering if you have any idea, or is there anyone in place to monitor where this gold mine, Lupin Mine, is disposing of their dangerous waste, like arsenic. Where are they depositing all of this waste?
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Minister, some of the people in Coppermine are coming to me regarding a concern that some of the fish that they are catching in the lakes, close to the mine, have become deformed. Some of the caribou that are being harvested are not suited for human consumption, because the meat in the caribou is turning green. The wildlife that fly up every spring land close to the tailings pond, and they become inedible.
In talking to many of the workers who work at Lupin Mine, the caribou graze and they bed down for the night right beside their bunkhouses, and there is fear that they go to the lake and drink whatever it is in there that makes them sick. So, I was wondering if you have any ways of monitoring, or getting up to Lupin Mine, and investigating what they are doing to the environment. It affects the people of Coppermine, and also Bathurst Inlet.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Titus Allooloo Amittuq
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We could monitor the mine for the Member, although, at this point, we are not thoroughly involved in the Lupin Mine, for monitoring purposes, since it is a federal responsibility, on
federal Crown land. We do have some cooperation with the federal agencies, we could check out the mine for the Member.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Bernhardt.
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
September 24th, 1992
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Ernie Bernhardt Kitikmeot
Mr. Chairman, how soon, Mr. Minister?