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Further Return To Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the security procedures in these facilities are of a confidential nature. I'm not going to elaborate on them because there are people who

will be going into these facilities at some time or other, including the present occupants who would very much enjoy reading Hansard and hearing it through the media. I don't think that's the intention of this legislature.

I do know that we have security procedures and operational manuals that are reviewed to make sure these reflect our assessment, and those of the people who manage these facilities, that the procedures and security measures we take reflect the needs as assessed by the managers of these facilities. We are trying to set up a system where we, on a regular basis, monitor and evaluate the effectiveness of these procedures.

I said, about a month or so ago this was done at River Ridge. As far as I know -- I haven't seen the written report yet -- but there was no call for immediate or urgent changes to procedures at that time. It may be that staff may have been momentarily lax in one or two small areas, it's humanly expected sometimes. That may have lead or allowed the incident to develop the way it did the other night. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's somewhat disappointing as a Member to listen to Ministers make statements and not be able to justify or clarify what they've said in this House. I'd like to ask the Minister, since he has indicated in his statement in this House this afternoon that there will be some immediate changes in security practices at River Ridge, and since he has stated that these changes are confidential in nature, my concern is the concern of the public in my constituency. I'd like to ask the Minister if he can, somehow, clarify his statement to give comfort to my constituents, to ensure that are security practices that are going to implemented in the River Ridge facility, and to avoid these types of incidents from reoccurring. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

Further Return To Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the statement was intended to reassure the public that, as a government, we are taking measures to ensure these facilities are secure, that the staff that are doing so in these facilities are working under conditions that are providing maximum security to them, and that they reflect the legislation that governs the care of these young offenders. This legislation basically says we should use the least amount of restriction possible while these young offenders are in our care.

The Member is looking for some assurance that we're taking this incident seriously. I can assure her that it is seen as a very serious incident. If there is concern that procedures were not followed, were not well thought out, or not adequate for the circumstances and the nature of the young offenders who are living there, we will find out. We are reviewing it right now to ensure that the public, the staff and the young offenders' interests are all taken into account.

Specifically, I can not provide detail. But if there is an indication that there was a broom handle or a mop handle left unattended and accessible by these young offenders, that may breach some of the security procedures. If keys that lock and unlock doors in this facility were made accessible by staff not following procedure, then that is a concern. We are going to review things, like how young offenders can get access to keys and how we minimize their access to keys. We are going to find out how it is that they got keys, or if they did, to take possession of a vehicle. Those are the concerns that we are dealing with right now.

There were meetings with the management at River Ridge, all of yesterday. They are reviewing the incidents and the procedures that were followed in conjunction with management of that facility. I believe certain measures will be taken.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Supplementary To Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

My last supplementary. He still hasn't answered my first question. Mr. Speaker, I know that the Minister stated that they are going to review and try to avoid these types of incidents from happening in the future. I recognize that he said these changes may take time. But, in his statement in this House, he said, "There will be some immediate changes in security practices at River Ridge." All I want to know, to give comfort to my constituents, is what are the immediate changes? Can he, somehow, answer simply? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 142-12(4): Changes In Security Procedures At River Ridge
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I can't answer the question the way that the Member wants me to answer. It would be a shotgun approach and it would, I think, disregard the interests of the staff who are working at the facility. It would show disregard of the management at River Ridge.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the Member asked a question and I'm trying to answer it. The short answer is, no, I can not provide her specific, immediate answers to her question about what immediate measures I'm taking. I mentioned a couple of things, almost in a hypothetical sense, that will be addressed. I'm telling her that measures will be taken, once they're agreed to by the management -- who are the people charged with operating these facilities -- and once they are in agreement with our staff, these measures will be done.

I don't think one or two little responses are going to do the public any good. The public should know that we are taking it seriously and we are. The public should know that the government is approaching it as a matter which needs an overall review and, if immediate changes are done, they'll be done in conjunction with management. Once those are done, I'll be prepared to give Members some indication about what has been implemented at River Ridge. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Ng.

Question 143-12(4): Sand And Silt Problems In Coppermine River
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Transportation. It is with regard to Coppermine's marine problems, as they relate to the sand and silt in the Coppermine River being deposited from the mouth of the river along the shore of the community. It has caused over the years, a shallow water situation, anywhere from a quarter to half a mile away from the shore. This year, the sea lift had to operate half-loads on their barges into Coppermine, as they have been grounded in shallow water for the past few years. NTCL has indicated to the community that they may have to adjust their rates to take into account these circumstances. My question to the Minister is, is he aware of this problem and if so, what are his plans to address it?

Question 143-12(4): Sand And Silt Problems In Coppermine River
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd

I am aware of the problem with respect to NTCL and because of the requests for local wharfage made by the community when I was there. But, I wasn't aware of the problem as it related to silt and NTCL coming in with half-loads. Sorry.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Ng.

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November 29th, 1993

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

In a situation like this, where there may be direct financial repercussions to the community and the government as a result of this, would the Minister be making a priority to address this issue?

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd

Absolutely. Like I said, this is the first time I have heard of it. I don't think there is any correspondence on it. I have visited Coppermine three times and, with all due respect, it has never been raised with me directly. I want to assure the honourable Member that I will take steps later on today to find out what the status of this situation is and get back to him, post haste.

Further Return To Question 143-12(4): Sand And Silt Problems In Coppermine River
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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Ningark.

Question 144-12(4): Policy On Sale Of Public Housing Units To Tenants
Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the honourable Minister responsible for housing. Mr. Speaker, my question is not meant to give an impression of dissatisfaction with the policy or the actions of the government. I want to get some clarification on behalf of the people I represent.

Mr. Speaker, I travelled throughout the territories this spring with the Special Committee on Health and Social Services. This is another matter, however. Some tenants who were living in public units indicated an interest in buying the public units they were living in. Some have indicated that they have actually bought public units.

My question to the honourable Minister is, Mr. Speaker, is there a policy within the Minister's department whereby tenants could, in fact, buy a public unit when he or she chooses to buy? Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have a northern rental sale program that we can use to sell the old northern rentals to the tenants who are living in them. All they have to do is get in touch with the housing authority to purchase those units. Some public units cannot be purchased because they are cost-shared through CMHC and they have to be used for 35 years. Thank you.

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The Speaker Michael Ballantyne

Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Allooloo.

Question 145-12(4): Nwthc Contract Procedures
Item 5: Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question to the Minister of Housing. Last Friday, I was questioning him on the electrical contract that was awarded to Mr. Kheraj. Mr. Speaker, in the Minister's answer, he mentioned that Merkosak Construction did not give the breakdown of the contract. I have a letter dated September 6 addressed to the housing corporation with the breakdown of the electrical contract. Did they not get that copy? Thank you.