Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.
--- Carried
Page 04-12 will be deferred.
Management Accounting Services
Debates of Feb. 22nd, 1993
Topics
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
We will go on to page 04-13, management accounting services. Total O and M is $1.274 million. Mr. Koe.
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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Fred Koe Inuvik
The management accounting services provides financial services procedures and training essential to financial management administration of the government. That is spelled out on line one of the narrative. We are also aware, through our other committees some departments, the Department of Health to be specific, have all kinds of concerns and problems with their financial management systems. How is this group, in the Department of Finance, related in terms of the services they provide to other departments?
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, this group works mostly with boards and agencies. I will give you some idea of the kind of things they do. They do systems support for the Housing Corporation and the Keewatin, Kitikmeot, Inuvik and Mackenzie regional boards of health. Those people use a clone of our main financial system. They provide services to other public agencies and assistance in the use of other types of computerized financial systems. They provide assistance to all FAA scheduled agencies in terms of application of government financial legislation polices, directives, etcetera, to credit and collections and banking and investment. With regard to assistance in compliance with legislative requirements for public agencies and so on, I could provide the list to the committee. It does go on for one page, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Koe.
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Fred Koe Inuvik
Thank you. Are the ten continuing PYs all located in headquarters or are some in the regions?
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
They are all in headquarters, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Management accounting services, total O and M of $1.274 million. Mr. Ningark.
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Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe this activity for management accounting services also relates to the tax administration, especially when it comes to maintaining the payroll system. I wonder if Mr. Koe wants to defer this page as well? Thank you.
Committee Motion 72-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 8
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Management accounting services, total O and M of $1.274 million. Is that agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Page 04-14, Financial Management Board Secretariat, total O and M of $1.504 million. Mr. Zoe.
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Henry Zoe North Slave
Mr. Chairman, under management accounting services, last year our standing committee made a recommendation to Finance to delete the boards and agencies team set up in this activity. I understand that this team still exists within the department. Could I get the Minister to comment on the boards and agencies team that is still in existence?
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Mr. Minister.
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John Pollard Hay River
Mr. Chairman, that is correct. After reviewing the documentation that was placed before the then, Standing Committee on Finance chairman, Mr. Todd, I was advised that the Standing Committee on Finance was satisfied that these people were justified. Consequently, we have not removed them from the budget. We consider them key in working with those health boards. I thought this problem had been resolved. Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Management accounting services, total O and M of $1.274 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Financial Management Board Secretariat
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Page 04-14, Financial Management Board Secretariat, total O and M of $1.504 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Details of grants and contributions, $4.354 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed
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The Chair Ludy Pudluk
Thank you. Grants and contributions, $4.354 million.
Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
--- Agreed