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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one final motion. I move the committee recommends that the Workers' Compensation Board improve their affirmative action results.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This concludes the recommendations and motions of the Standing Committee on Finance. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. There is no money to be voted upon. It is an information item only, on page 7-16. The floor is open for general comments on this item. If the Minister would like to invite witnesses to the witness table, the Sergeant-at-Arms will assist.

Thank you. Mr. Minister, for the record would you introduce your witnesses, please?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With me is Dorothy Chattell who is in charge of finance, Mr. Gerry Muir who is the new general manager appointed in late December, and our new chairman, Mr. Jeff Gilmour who was recently the assistant deputy minister of Justice.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Workers' Compensation Board. The item is found on page 7-16. General comments. Mr. Patterson.

General Comments

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to publicly congratulate the Minister on the appointment of Mr. Gilmour to the chair of the Workers' Compensation Board. I have had the pleasure of working with Mr. Gilmour in other capacities and I am confident he has the right qualities to take on this difficult assignment. I am also very pleased with what I have heard of the success of the new general manager in improving morale in the board.

I also want to say I have had a chance to review the legislative review done by Mr. Garven and I think, given the time constraints, it is a very thoughtful and helpful piece of work.

I want to say generally, having been involved with the board myself as the previous Minister, I am aware better than most that it has been under intense scrutiny in the past year or so. Although sometimes the questions and criticisms have not been entirely fair to the employees, I think we should look on this scrutiny as healthy. I do not think the Workers' Compensation Board has ever undergone such scrutiny since it was established as it has in the last year. Everyone should view this as positive, helpful and indicating fundamentally a well intentioned concern that the board work well, that rates be kept as low as possible and services to workers be maximized. I think the board and the new Minister are off to a very good start. I would like to think I have had a small role in helping prepare for some of the changes which have been put in place. However, everything I have heard indicates things are moving forward and that the motions which were presented by this committee will be dealt with expeditiously. There are some tough choices ahead and some difficult issues which have been thrust on the board. I am confident under the leadership of Mr. Todd and Mr. Gilmour, with the new blood on the board, that these difficult issues will be tackled. I want to wish them well in their work ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Patterson. Are there any general comments? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Chairman, I do not have general comments but I have a question which relates to revenues. Since we do not have any detail to go through I am assuming this is an appropriate time to bring this up. In the information which was presented to the Standing Committee on Finance during our review of the budget, we were advised there is an expectation that there will be $200,000 in revenues from Renewable Resources to pay for compensation for hunters and trappers. I wanted to ask the Minister if he is confident, or if the board is confident that this is a relatively accurate figure according to normal budgetary principles?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

This is a long outstanding issue which our colleague, Mr. Gargan, has raised on a number of occasions. I want to assure everyone that the memorandum of agreement is close to completion. Historically, $200,000 has been the kind of dollars required. The financial responsibility for this falls upon the Department of Renewable Resources. If there is a requirement for more, then we will go and ask them for it. I would say the agreement is a week to ten days away from being finalized. Based on some historical experience, they feel $200,000 is sufficient.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason I brought it up, Mr. Chairman, was that Renewable Resources had indicated in their budget there may not be any requirement for any funds to go to the Workers' Compensation Board. I am wondering how, in the grand scheme of things, we have two agencies of the same government, one saying that it is going to get $200,000 approximately as a budgetary figure from a department, and the department saying they do not think they will have to give any but if necessary, they will come back with a supp. It does not seem there is a cohesive budgetary process. This is what I was getting at. This question perhaps should be directed to the Minister of Finance in terms of how budgets are prepared. However, I wanted to get a feel from the Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board if they felt all reasonable efforts had been made to forecast these revenues. I guess the question still begs of Renewable Resources, why they could not make the effort to forecast the expenditure accurately. No question, just a comment.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Todd, it was a comment, however, you may wish to respond.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I suspect because there was no agreement being reached in terms of the memorandum, I cannot speak for the Department of Renewable Resources, perhaps it did not include it because of this. I would think what will happen is they will come in with a supplementary appropriation. I want to assure everyone there is an understanding between the WCB and the Department of Renewable Resources that when the memorandum of agreement is signed it will meet the concerns and the issues which were raised frequently by Mr. Gargan. It will meet the needs and requirements of legitimate hunters and trappers.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Are there any general comments? Mr. Pudluk.

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Ludy Pudluk High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When the Legislative Assembly started, I raised a concern with the Minister of WCB. In January, 1992, the president of mining at Nanisivik and Polaris had some concerns regarding the WCB. At that time, he said he was going to be meeting with WCB members. Can you inform me if his concerns were addressed, or has he spoken to the WCB regarding these concerns? Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Pudluk. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Pudluk had raised this issue in the House earlier regarding me not meeting with the mining people. That was an unfortunate communication problem. I want to assure the honourable Member that the mining industry and particularly the Nanisivik and Polaris group are currently in contact with the chairman. I believe meetings are scheduled for next month. The principle concern of the mining industry, and it is understandable, was the rates and the costs associated with it. We are trying to address that issue by looking at some of the options which have been laid out in the Workers' Compensation Board legislative review document. I want to assure the honourable Member that the board is communicating with the mining industry, and I will be meeting with the chamber of mines soon myself. Thank you.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Gargan.

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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With regard to people who come up from the south to work, do they make a contribution to compensation and do we cover their injuries if they have an accident?

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Gargan. Mr. Minister

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John Todd Keewatin Central

If a worker is hurt within our jurisdiction, then we are responsible for the compensation. For example, if a transient worker goes into Lupin Mine and is hurt there, we are responsible for his benefits.