Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The total number of persons is 9,576.

Thank you. Member for Thebacha.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will address my further comments when we get under family and children's services. I would like to ask the committee's consent to return to the directorate portion of this budget.

Does this committee agree?

Agreed.

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Proceed, Member for Thebacha

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Directorate

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have been somewhat concerned in regard to the estimates for 1992-93 being considered a surplus, particularly in the youth initiative program, so I would like to present a motion to the House.

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Thebacha.

I have one further comment, Mr. Chairman. I recognize that friendship centres are not all over the Northwest Territories, but there are groups who deliver programs for youth in the areas which are absent from friendship centres, this funding allocation is not saying that every surplus dollar should go to friendship centres. I know, in the west the friendship centres look after programs for youth. A certain amount of these dollars can be allocated to the friendship centres and the remaining dollars can be allocated to groups or organizations who deliver programs for youth. Therefore, I would like to make that point clear to the Minister so she understands the intent of the motion.

I further wanted it to be known to the House that this motion does not construe in any shape, way or form that we are capping the amount of funding which has been cut back by the federal government to the Secretary of State. This is not intended to fill up an off-loading measure by the federal government. I strongly believe there are groups in the communities, such as friendship centres, that have taken the time to deliver programs for youth across the territories to keep them busy. Recognizing that this significant amount of surplus funding is going to be lapsing prior to year end, I would like to see the organizations at least assisted financially for the efforts they have made in addressing the youth in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Gargan.

Mr. Chairman, with your permission, I would like to make an amendment to the motion.

Proceed, Mr. Gargan.

Following line six after "assist friendship centres" I would like to include "and other support groups in the Northwest Territories who deliver programs for youth."

Before I read this amendment, I need it translated. We will take a five minute break.

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This committee will now come back to order. I believe all the Members have the copy of the amendment. This amendment is in order. To the amendment. Mr. Lewis.

Mr. Chairman, I do not expect that anything I say is going to influence what people will decide to do with this motion. I would remind Members that we sat during the break discussing the problems of off-loading, where we get off-load and do not have the money we would like to have to deliver the service that has been off-loaded. Although this motion is being worded in such a way that it is not just friendship centres, but other things that this money would be used for, what you are really doing is trying to fill a gap left by the federal government because it is not giving the friendship centres the amount of money they should receive. We are picking up the slack, and we keep on doing it. I wanted to make that point. Thank you.

Thank you. To the amendment.

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The amendment is carried.

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The motion is carried as amended.

Directorate

We are still on the directorate. Total O and M, $11.601 million. Agreed?

Agreed.

---Agreed

Family And Children's Services

Thank you. Family and children's services, total O and M, $13.861 million. Mr. Ningark.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On page 13-13, family and children's services indicates the type and area of case loads that social workers are called upon to handle. The social workers' case loads require the knowledge of working with any conceivable social problems in the given community. Case loads range from the top of the page, family counselling to the bottom of the page, community based mental health programs. Mr. Chairman, this is where the specified profession comes in. In most of the small communities, to my understanding, social workers are not properly trained to handle many of the social, emotional problems. Does the Minister have a program where a social worker is trained to be able to handle any social situation that comes on a day-to-day basis? Thank you.