Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.
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Committee Motion 113-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 9
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I had asked the Minister in the House, under oral questions, a question with regard to the time frame for decentralization of the petroleum products division. The Minister wrote and gave me the time frames that they are considering in decentralizing petroleum products. He indicated that they plan to locate and operate in Fort Simpson by September 1 and locate and operate in Rankin Inlet by December 25. He states, these dates, however, depend on appropriate office space and housing being available. Why are they considering making housing available when in the housing strategy, they are trying to get out of housing?
Secondly, with regard to office space, when will they advise the community of the amount of time they need? Thank you.
Committee Motion 113-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 9
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are presently working with both communities and they are both aware of the office space needed. We are negotiating office space in Rankin Inlet and in Fort Simpson. As far as supplying government housing, we are not, I believe that is Personnel's job.
Committee Motion 113-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 9
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
I know Personnel is the one that issues the requests to DPW to retrieve the housing. DPW is the one that determines the housing and finds the allocation of housing, so he cannot say it is Personnel. In his letter, he did say it was dependent upon appropriate office space and housing being available, so I would like to ask the Minister why is this one of the conditions of decentralization, when the government is trying to address their housing strategy? I am sure they are trying to do this with the coordinated effort of Personnel, DPW and the Minister of Housing. Seeing he is the Minister of two departments, why is this one of the conditions? Thank you.
Committee Motion 113-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 9
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We went through the system to find out how many houses would be needed. We found we would need an additional 28 houses in Rankin Inlet and ten in Fort Simpson.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to follow up on the Member for Thebacha's questions. In the Minister's
reply he just said they were negotiating for office space in both communities. Does that mean there will not be a tender call?
Committee Motion 113-12(3): To Adopt Recommendation 9
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is correct.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Will the Minister advise us with whom they are negotiating and the process used to determine who they would negotiate with?
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you. Ilagiiktut Ltd. in Rankin Inlet, and Nahendeh Development Corporation in Fort Simpson.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thanks, Mr. Chairman. I had also asked about the process used to determine which groups would be negotiated with. Was this sole source, how did we determine who it was we would negotiate with?
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the beginning of this process, in Rankin Inlet for example, we were approached by Ilagiiktut Ltd., owned by Inuit shareholders from the Keewatin region. They would be the landlords of the office. I have taken their request to negotiate. Cabinet gave me approval to negotiate under the conditions that all the work is carried out in the north by northerners, all local people have to benefit. People in that community agreed that would be negotiated.
Also, the same conditions apply in Fort Simpson. The Nahendeh Development Corporation, the band, the Metis and private enterprise people are involved in the community of Fort Simpson. It is supported by the community as it is in Rankin Inlet. The majority of labour on the job should be local. Contractors are required to use 100 per cent local and northern subcontractors and suppliers. That is the condition we are now negotiating. When the department reaches agreement with these two companies, it goes back to Cabinet for approval. Thank you.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Negotiated contracts have been a subject of some question for the Minister in the past. If I remember correctly, the Minister was asked if he would table the policy as to what steps are followed in terms of getting into a negotiated contract. I am not sure, Mr. Chairman, if this has been tabled, but could I ask the Minister if it has not been tabled, will it be tabled in the near future?
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I did do that.
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