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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. So there are plans in place. May I assume that somewhere down the road, we will be provided with the details of these plans?

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, yes.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.

Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. Madam Speaker, this is the fifth Minister to which I will be addressing this matter since the beginning of our term. This is with regard to the small settlements operations assistance program, financial operations for small communities. I have a number in my constituency which are not incorporated. They are organized under band council community government systems, and they are not viewed by this government to be funded, according to other groups in the north and other communities. We are dealing with fairness and equity here. People in small communities have been at a disadvantage since the beginning of this government, and it's not appropriate.

Last year, I heard that this department was going to do something about assisting the small communities through a small settlement operations assistance program, and I thought that was going along fairly well until this sudden reorganization happened in this department. I would like to ask the Minister if anything is going to be done in terms of a program such as the SOAP to help these small communities? Thank you.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Member is quite correct in saying that he's been raising this concern for quite some time. During the Standing Committee on Finance review, we also discussed the question the Member is asking about. The department has not developed a specific plan to address this priority area, but this does not mean that actions have not been taken. The Member, through the Standing Committee on Finance, would provide a plan of action by the end of October, and there are a number of things, training initiatives and workshops, which are available for these smaller communities. We did make a commitment that we would do something to address some of the inequities that Mr. Antoine is talking about.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Madam Speaker. In my preamble, to the Members of the Cabinet and the Financial Management Board who will make the decision on supporting small communities -- and I don't know why they haven't been doing that -- I just want to re-emphasize the point that they have to support communities like this. I would just like to ask the Minister, if a program such as the SOAP has been developed, is it possible to obtain some of the documentation on what type of support these communities will have?

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Ms. Mike.

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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. In my earlier response, the plan of action that will be ready by the end of October will address those kinds of areas. Madam Speaker, I do understand Mr. Antoine's question and concern, and it is important in my eyes that these smaller communities should be provided the level of resources and training that they require. I can assure the Member that the plan of action which I hope will be ready by the end of October will include all that. Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Iqaluit, Mr. Patterson.

Question 130-12(6): Amalgamation Of Health And Social Services
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October 12th, 1994

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

I would like to ask the Premier about the proposed amalgamation of Health and Social Services. Madam Speaker, we know that Health is a much bigger department, and we know that Social Services is a much smaller department which has already been downsized by a major raid from the Department of Justice within the life of this government. Is this amalgamation of Health and Social Services an amalgamation or is it a takeover by Health. Thank you.

The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I have to apologize because when the honourable Member puts a question forward, he uses all types of expressions that I find difficult to address. The responsibility of Health and Social Services is being consolidated. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Maybe I could put the question more concretely. Madam Speaker, I understand there are plans afoot in the coming fiscal year to have this consolidation implemented. I would like to ask the Minister, since I assume the thinking is fairly well-advanced in her office about how this is going to happen, what will the role of the regional health boards be. Is it anticipated that Social Services staff will report to these regional health boards after the consolidation?

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the consolidation efforts of the departments began in earnest in October 1993 to try to address the issue of programs and services to individuals as well as to try to address some of the outstanding global concerns that individuals had in the delivery of social services, which goes under the category of welfare. What we tried to do, in rationalizing these programs and services, is to try to respond in a more positive way to the concerns that have been before us for many years.

For example, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment will hopefully take a lot of the responsibility which presently exists under the Social Services umbrella where there will be training employment, and I believe that those are the indicators that we had for quite a number of years, that people did not like to be on welfare and wanted a more positive program. So many of the areas that we can look toward to for the individuals in the communities are that they have better access to education and employment in this area. What we'd hoped then, is Social Services will be doing the job it was set up to do, with regard to the training that many of the workers need, and to provide counselling service and advice to people who are in need of this type of program.

As the Member is aware, there is a great deal of interest in communities taking more control over their lives. There are a number of issues that are housed in these various departments, so the consolidation is trying to address those issues.

Since we began, a number of steps have been taken to streamline the department and incorporate functions within the new department and I believe that we've provided that information to Members. As well, what we've done -- and I've taken the responsibility to also provide the information as we get it together -- is develop some models for the integration of programs at headquarters, regional and community levels because we feel it has to work together. I think what we're trying to do is put the programs together so, while we're doing this job, the programs and services are not disrupted. Because I think in streamlining, what you would get is easier access to more positive programs for people. As the Minister of Public Works says, any time we make changes, there will be some hiccups, but at the same time, I believe what we're doing will only just be responding to the many concerns that have been raised either in committees, in communities and in an overall global provision of services. Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Madam Speaker, I'd like to make it clear to the Premier I'm not questioning the decision to consolidate. I was part of the Special Committee on Health and Social Services that, in fact, recommended that step would be progressive. What I'd just like to ask the Minister again is, if she could enlighten us as to what thought has been given to the role of health boards. The Department of Health has regional health boards that oversee the delivery of programs at the regional level. The Department of Social Services has no equivalent boards. Will those health boards still be there and will the rump of the Social Services employees report through those boards? Has that been worked out? Thank you.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Madam Premier.

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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the discussions have begun at the regional level with the boards, with various workers in the regional office and communities. We've had two large workshops that put all these particular people together to see how we could best achieve this streamlining without the disruption. So we're working on that and we haven't come up with a plan to conclude it. We've had a lot of good input, but I would hope that rather than the rump of Social Services, maybe the brain of Social Services will be able to conduct its business in a more effective way. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The time for oral questions has lapsed. Item 7, written questions. The honourable Member for Iqaluit, Mr. Patterson.