Mr. Chairman, I guess what the Minister hasn't really made clear to me is why even call it a science institute? Why not have an Arctic College and let Arctic College have a department of science, department of humanities, a department of whatever? I don't understand why there has to be a science institute within the college and what the advantages are.
Debates of Oct. 17th, 1994
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
I guess what we're trying to do is alleviate some of the fears of the Members and that is that there is no particular group that is going to focus on the area of science and technology. The Member for Deh Cho raised that point. We didn't want the Members to be placed in a position where we were losing focus. If that happened later on, where there was a choice to get out of it, then it would be a matter of changing the legislation only at the approval of the Assembly. So we're moving, but we're moving cautiously. At the same time, we're trying to move the institution so it is headed in the direction of dealing with science and technology issues.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Could I ask what the annual costs are for running a science institute now and whether or not an assessment has been made of what the incremental costs will be after moving the Science Institute within the two colleges and after the split?
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Thank you. I'll get Mr. Cleveland to answer the question about the specific details, but I want to say to the honourable Member is that what we're dealing with is primarily the utilization of existing resources. There are no incremental costs in terms of this issue at this particular time.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Are there any general comments on Bill 7? The chair recognizes Mr. Dent and Mr. Gargan.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Chairman, my first question was, what are the costs of the Science Institute?
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Cleveland
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The annual contribution from the GNWT is about $1.3 million. The institute, itself, then raises additional funding through contractual work much as the college would do. Thank you.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I find it very difficult to believe you could set up two offices of anything and not have some incremental costs. If you're moving people from one location and putting them into other locations, there have to be some incremental costs.
I am having a little trouble with that, but let's just say that there are not incremental costs; if I have to choose between $1.3 million on an early intervention program for young kids or on a head-start program for young kids and a Science Institute, my vote is going to be with the kids. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
It's a matter of debate.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. General comments. The chairman recognizes Mr. Gargan.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask, right now you have on the Science Institute no more than 13 but over seven members. Who is on the board of the Science Institute of the Northwest Territories now and which communities are they from?
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
I have to make a list of that. We are going to make a list, and I will give to you in a second here those members. We recently appointed some new members to the Science Institute.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
You had them committed to memory and now you are putting them down on paper, are you? He'll have the answer for you in a moment, Mr. Gargan. A partial list. A couple of names. Thank you, Mr. Minister. You are to proceed.
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Thank you. I will give you a list of those who we can recall: Dr. Loretta Foley of Yellowknife; Stefan Simek of Yellowknife; Phillip Uviluq of Pond Inlet; Joe Ohokannoak of Cambridge Bay; Steve Richards of Yellowknife and Joanne Deneron of Fort Liard.
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho
With the amalgamation of the Science Institute and the Arctic College, do we have someone from the Science
Institute who is going to be sitting on the board of directors of Arctic College or whatever it's called?
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Yes. I forgot one individual from Inuvik, Rudy Cockney. They are cross-appointments: Phillip Uviluq from Pond Inlet, Joe Ohokannoak from Cambridge Bay, Steve Richards from Yellowknife and Joanne Deneron from Fort Liard.