Debates of Oct. 18th, 1994

This is page numbers 333 - 364 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Nunavut Municipal Lands Referendum
Provision Of Services To People With Special Needs
Fort Simpson Municipal Election
Yellowknife Municipal Election
Inuvik Municipal Election
Municipal Elections
Travel Of Unilingual Medical Patients
Health Services For Residents Of Baffin South
GNWT Achievements In Iqaluit
Appreciation To Taloyoak Residents
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Responsibility For Pre-school Children With Special Needs
Program For Treatment Of Special Needs
Departmental Definition Of Special Needs
Categorization Of Special Needs Students
Special Needs School Survey
Procedure For Arranging Assessment And Treatment For Special Needs
Responsibility For Therapeutic Treatment For Children
Support For Special Needs Adults
Study On Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
Access Of Speech Therapy Services By Children
Responsibility Of Speech Therapy For Children
Funding For Speech Therapy Services Outside Of The Nwt
Intention Of Health And Social Service's Mou
Treatment Of Dyslexia/fetal Alcohol Syndrome
Municipal Land Allocation
Policy For Unilingual Medical Patients/escorts
Policy For Patient Referrals
Time Frame For Cabinet Submission Re Indigenous Games
Support For Victims' Assistance Programs
Revert To Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Written Question 7-12(6): Teacher's Aides And Special Needs Students In The NWT School System
Written Question 8-12(6): Costs Associated With Special Needs Persons In The Nwt
Written Question 9-12(6): Definition Of Special Needs In The NWT School System
Written Question 10-12(6): Speech Therapist Services And Private Practices
Item 10: Replies To Budget Address
Committee Report 12-12(6): Status Report - Response To Standing Committee On Finance Recommendations
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents
Bill 13: An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act
Bill 14: An Act To Repeal The Public Service Vehicles Act
Bill 15: An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Committee Report 9-12(6): Investing In Our Future, October 1994
To Adopt Recommendation 1
To Adopt Recommendation 2
To Adopt Recommendation 3
To Adopt Recommendation 4
To Adopt Recommendation 5
To Adopt Recommendation 5, CarriedCommittee Report 9-12(6), Investing In Our Future, October 1994, Is Concluded. Do We Agree That This Report Is Concluded? Mr. Pollard.
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Committee Report 9-12(6): Investing In Our Future, October 1994
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Samuel Gargan Deh Cho

Mr. Chairman, I hear you and I will not push my luck. I do have a problem which I thought maybe I would take the opportunity to express while we're on the general comments of Investing in Our Future. One of the observations is I think the Minister should immediately...If this consultation is going to start, he should start now . I hope that we don't look at the next fiscal year to start that consultation process.

The other thing is I think a lot of the expenditures that occurred this summer could be quite obvious. Where all the expenditures have happened and what could be done about it, that should be identified.

The other issue is if he is going to be talking to the elders, then one of the things we know -- and it's pretty obvious -- is that in the north, the summers are getting warmer and it's getting to be quite a problem. On the fire suppression program, I don't know if the dollars allocated for fire suppression are on the increase from the federal government in order to meet the fire suppression needs for the year.

I'm hoping that when we have a situation like we did this summer where it was dry, the federal government is made aware of it. If we plan then we won't be put in this situation. When I went to Snowdrift there were two fires. Because they were on an island or seemed to be on an island, they were just let go to burn themselves out. I think that's a really bad working policy, if you have such a policy. For the aboriginal people, the land, whether it's burned or not, is important to them.

I still say you should develop a policy in all areas where fires have taken place so that absolutely nothing happens in those areas until those burned areas have had an opportunity to replenish themselves.

Committee Report 9-12(6): Investing In Our Future, October 1994
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Antoine.

Committee Report 9-12(6): Investing In Our Future, October 1994
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't have any general comments. The body of this report was read into the record. If there are no other general comments, I would like to make some motions. There are five different recommendations we have to make motions on in this report.

Committee Report 9-12(6): Investing In Our Future, October 1994
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Do we have the agreement of the committee that the chairman of the Standing Committee on Finance will go with the following motions? Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Proceed, Mr. Antoine.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the committee recommends that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs report on the organizational restructuring, the rationale for the changes and the anticipated benefits. Further, the committee recommends that this report be provided to the committee by December 23, 1994.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Zoe.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, I agree with the motion that is in front of us, that the report on the organizational structure should be given to us as to the rationale for the changes and the anticipated benefits that we're going to receive from making these changes. I agree with that, but the committee is also further recommending that the report be provided to the standing committee by December 23rd.

I'm just wondering, Mr. Chairman, if the standing committee would agree with me if we could ask the government to provide this particular report prior to dealing with the 1995-96 capital estimates of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. I understand the department is willing to provide Members with a briefing on this issue. If that's the case, then I can't see why she can't provide this report prior to us dealing with their department's capital budget.

Mr. Chairman, I move that the motion be amended by deleting the words "by December 23, 1994" and substitute the following "of the whole prior to consideration of the detail of the 1995-96 capital estimates of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs".

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

We have to take about five minutes in order to get the translation for a Member of this committee. We will take a five-minute break for translation. Thank you.

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Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The committee will come back to order. Mr. Zoe, for the record, would you read your motion again, please.

Committee Motion To Amend Motion To Amend Recommendation 1, Carried

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The amendment I would like to make is as follows: I move that the motion be amended by deleting the words "by December 23, 1994" and substituting the following: "of the whole prior to consideration of details of 1995-96 capital estimates of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs".

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Zoe. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Zoe.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Mr. Chairman, to the motion, it is of great interest to me to get the details of the reorganization of this particular department. I think it's warranted that these particular details should be provided as soon as possible because these organizational changes did occur over the summer. I think Members on this side of the House and that portion of the House would like to find out exactly why these changes did occur and how they are going to benefit the programs that are currently being delivered by that department and if it is going to be more efficient. So, Mr. Chairman, I am making this particular amendment for those reasons so that we can deal with the issue that has been identified by the Standing Committee on Finance. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

To the motion.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair John Ningark

Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion? Opposed to the motion? The motion is carried.

---Carried

To the previous motion as amended. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 23-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Question has been called. All those in favour of the motion? Opposed? The previous motion is carried as amended.

---Carried

Mr. Antoine.

Committee Motion 24-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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October 17th, 1994

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the committee recommends that the Financial Management Board undertake a full review of the costs and benefits associated with separating the capital and operating budgets. The review should include an assessment of alternative methods of achieving the objective of early tendering of capital projects. Further, the committee recommends that the chair of the Financial Management Board provide a comprehensive report on its findings to the Standing Committee on Finance along with the 1995-96 operations and maintenance documents currently scheduled to be provided December 23, 1994.

Committee Motion 24-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 24-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair John Ningark

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Did you have your hand up? I didn't see that. Sorry about that. I'm sorry, Sam. Mr. Antoine, do you have further motions?

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Pardon?

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Fred Koe Inuvik

The vote's been taken.