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Committee Motion 69-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 69-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 1, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Question is being called. All those in favour? Those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Koe.

Policy Recommendations By The Council

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. Mahsi, colleagues. The council also has a mandate to provide recommendations to the Minister on issues and policies associated with the arts and artists. But members of the council have difficulty meeting this part of their mandate, given that they only meet for about four days a year. The department should seriously consider the trade-off between spending a little more to allow the council to meet longer or more often, and the possible value of policy recommendations which may then be made by the council.

Council Membership

At present, the council has six members. However, it has been suggested that the council's membership be increased to seven: one member representing Yellowknife, three from the rest of the western Arctic, and three from the eastern Arctic. The standing committee agrees with the council and the Minister that this would provide improved regional representation on the council.

I have a recommendation, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 70-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

I move that this committee recommends that the Northwest Territories Arts Council policy be amended to provide for a total membership of seven on the Arts Council.

Committee Motion 70-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Your motion is in order, Mr. Koe. To the motion.

Committee Motion 70-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 70-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 2, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Question is being called. All those in favour? Those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

I have a final recommendation, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommends that, in accordance with rule 93(5), the Executive Council table a comprehensive response to the recommendations contained in this report within 120 days of the presentation of this report in the House.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Your motion is in order, Mr. Koe. To the motion.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Question is being called. All those in favour? Those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Mr. Koe.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. That concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions on the Northwest Territories Arts Council. I would like to thank the members of the present Arts Council, it's chairman, Sue Rose, and all the previous members of the Arts Council for the work that they've done over the years. I would like to thank all the artists throughout the north for their contribution to our economy, and for the work they've done for the north. I would also like to thank the department, the officials who have been supporting this council over the years, and the Minister and his staff for their support in preparing this review. Finally, I would like to thank the Members of the committee. Mahsi.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Do Members agree that we have today finished this item?

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Next on the list given by Mr. Dent on your behalf, we go to Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act.

Committee Motion 71-12(6): To Adopt Recommendation 3, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Bill 8: An Act To Amend The Public Utilities Act
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November 3rd, 1994

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Is the Minister responsible for this act ready to make some opening comments? Mr. Todd.

Minister's Introductory Remarks

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act. The intent of this legislation is the implementation of a levy to recover from rate applicants approximately 50 per cent of the costs of the operation of the PUB.

Prior to the introduction of this legislation, an analysis of the impact of this levy on ratepayers was undertaken. This analysis has shown that a 50 per cent cost recovery would on average cost each ratepayer 34 cents per billing, on a monthly consumption of 700 kilowatts, for a total of $4.08 per year.

Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Legislation proposed several amendments to the proposed act during their review that the government and my office has concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mahsi cho.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you very much, Mr. Todd. On behalf of the Standing Committee on Legislation, Mr. Whitford, do you have a committee report for us? Mr. Whitford.

Standing Committee On Legislation Comments

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, good afternoon. Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Legislation has had the opportunity to review Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act. The committee held public hearings in Yellowknife on September 1, 1994. The standing committee heard representations from the town of Hay River and the city of Yellowknife. Both municipalities expressed great concern over the proposed amendment to the Public Utilities Act.

The municipalities stated that, in their view, the proposed amendment is not warranted, nor is it necessary. They felt that the amendment amounts to nothing more than an additional tax for utility customers. The standing committee is concerned with the possibility that the consumer will be facing increases to their utility bills; not only once, but twice. It appears that the down loading of the costs to upgrade the Public Utilities Board will be carried by the consumer, levied once by the utility to recoup their costs and in tax-based communities, increases in taxes by the municipalities trying to recover their increased costs.

The standing committee was also concerned that the percentage of the operating costs of the utilities board that is to be recovered was not stated or limited by the legislation. The percentage was to be fixed, by order of the Commissioner. The committee, with the agreement of the Minister, amended Bill 8 to ensure that the percentage fixed each fiscal year was not greater than 50 per cent of the actual operating costs.

On September 9, 1994, the Standing Committee on Legislation passed a motion that Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities

Act was ready for consideration in committee of the whole. So concludes the report, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you very much, Mr. Whitford, for that report from the Standing Committee on Legislation. Mr. Todd, would you like to have the help of witnesses? Do Members agree that Mr. Todd can bring his witnesses in?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Mr. Sergeant-at-Arms, conduct the witnesses to the table, please.

For the record, Mr. Todd, perhaps you could introduce your witness for us.

Bill 8: An Act To Amend The Public Utilities Act
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On my immediate right is Mrs. Carol Whitehouse, who is the legislative counsel.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, and welcome. Do Members have any general comments, statements or questions about this bill? Mr. Dent.

General Comments