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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you for your help with that, Mr. Todd. Public Utilities Board, total O and M, $543,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you. Details of grants and contributions, page 08-15. Total grants, $15,000. First Mr. Whitford and then Mr. Ningark.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under fire safety, the NWT Association of Fire Chiefs, that figure of $10,000 has remained steady for quite awhile. Given the economic times we're facing, I recognize that the government doesn't have as many dollars as they would like, but to operate a program like that, $10,000 five years ago was a lot of money but as it is still the same five years later, it diminishes in value. I'm wondering why it has remained at $10,000 for all these years. Is this sort of a fixed thing? Is this all they've asked for? I would like to recommend they get more.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Clearly, we don't have the additional resources to provide any increases in the dollars. We've been able to receive appropriate approval to maintain those numbers. That is generally the reason why it has not been increased at all.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, very much, Mr. Nerysoo. Mr. Whitford.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

While I recognize the financial difficulties we're in, I also recognize the valuable contribution that the fire fighters make to the north in every community. The fire chiefs assemble here to discuss various problems and it is an important area. I would like to encourage the department to see where they can find additional dollars. Even a few dollars more would considerably offset the costs they are faced with now. I know we can't do anything at this time, but for future consideration if you happen to find a few more dollars, I and a lot of people feel it is vitally important that the chiefs do get together to discuss mutual problems to come up with some solutions that will benefit us all. I would just like to put that plug in, Mr. Chairman, to the Minister.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Whitford. Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think I should have mentioned this in the activity area. I know the training of fire fighters in our jurisdiction is very important regardless of where the fire fighters may live or how small the community may be. Fire prevention is very important. Recruitment occurs from time to time and those new fire fighters may require training. Also there is a new technology and new equipment being invented from time to time and there are new chemicals that are used to extinguish fire being invented. How often do the voluntary fire fighters get their training? Is it on a yearly basis or is it at the discretion of the fire chief? How often do we get training for our fire fighters in the system? Thank you.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you. Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the deputy minister to be more specific about the method of providing training programs.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Mr. Quirke.

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Quirke

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, the office of the fire marshal, despite what people think, does not have statutory responsibility to provide fire training to municipalities. However, he does have the statutory responsibility to recommend to the Minister of Safety and Public Services what type of training programs fire fighters need. The responsibility of the actual organizing and funding of fire fighting training is the responsibility of Municipal and Community Affairs. The office of the fire marshal does assist local fire fighters when we do visit our communities for inspections and we are always willing to help as much as possible. But it is a situation where we can only do that when we are in the community, depending on our travel budget, et cetera. The legislative mandate is with MACA and not with the fire marshal.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Quirke. Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have one final point. Since I used to work for the municipality of Pelly Bay as a senior administrative officer, our fire chief used to come over and wonder about when the next training program was going to be. Subsequently, when I took over a seat in the House, the same person and other people have approached me about the possibility of training just about every year. I thought I would bring this to the attention of the Minister and his deputy. It is very important that we try to keep the communities, especially the fire fighters, updated on what new equipment is available, how to operate it, the types of new chemicals used to extinguish fires, et cetera. I thought people should be informed, especially those who are there to prevent fires. Thank you.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you. Any response, Mr. Nerysoo?

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

We are working with MACA to deal with those particular issues. We will be developing a report to respond to the concerns the honourable Member has raised, along with other matters.

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Okay. Details of grants and contributions, $15,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Grants and contributions, $15,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Grants, $15,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Not necessarily in that order. The next page is an information item, Workers' Compensation Board, zero. Agreed?