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Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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Kenoayoak Pudlat Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I would like to thank the Minister of Transportation not just from my constituents, but from people all over the territories. In 1994 the Cape Dorset runway will be improved. They will also be getting a new terminal. I would like to thank him for that.

I have a comment to make and a question. You said that you went to my community of Lake Harbour, but I don't remember when you were there. We have a lot of hills. It is one of the communities with the most hills. In the winter time, they have to put gravel on the snow in my community. A lot of times, there is not enough sand to go around in the winter time. The quarry sites we have are quite far and the equipment we have is not suitable for that work. People have asked for a boulder crusher.

Even though that's not one of our major priorities, it is one of them. Hopefully, within five years, this can be considered because there isn't enough sand from the quarry sites. I think you are aware that we have requested a boulder crusher in the capital projects. It should be one of the priorities in the capital budget. If we don't have any more sand, we won't have enough for our roads or for the runway. We have to make plans ahead of time. I want this to be considered in the capital budget.

Everybody is aware that there is not enough money to go around for everybody, but one of the priorities we want to keep is for a runway. When the weather is not very good, and if there is an emergency and the planes have to come in, we have to have safe runways. I know you've heard this before, but we are not sure when this will be put in the capital budget. We definitely need a new runway. If we keep postponing it and something happens, that wouldn't be very good. There have been studies of where an ideal site would be for such a runway. I'm sure you will be bringing this up in your plan. I want this to be in the plan.

In Sanikiluaq, the runway was improved and I also wish to thank you for that. I have a lot of concerns that I want to bring up, but I will keep bringing them so they can be dealt with in the main estimates and the capital budget. That's all I have to say, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Pudlat. Mr. Minister, do you want to comment?

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, I do want to commend the honourable Member for keeping the transportation initiatives in his area, whether it is in Cape Dorset or Lake Harbour, front and centre in terms of our agenda. I think he should be applauded for that and I'm sure his constituents will agree.

---Applause

I'm glad that in some small way, we were able to help both in Sanikiluaq and Cape Dorset. We have a full program to assist both those communities.

On the issue of Lake Harbour, again, I found that the honourable Member has never asked for anything that is outrageous. He has been fair in his debates on the Department of Transportation's budget in the past. We know the cost to move a new airstrip in Lake Harbour would be very high. I've assured the Member before and I want to assure him again that we will try to fit that in somewhere. I don't know whether it will be in the life of this Assembly, or the next one, but we are certainly going to address that issue. We will try the

best we can. But, as he says, we are working under fairly restrictive fiscal conditions.

I do, however, think that there is a crushing program, not run by Transportation, but run by Public Works, which has a revolving fund. Perhaps I can discuss with my colleague, Mr. Morin, and see where we can fit the possibility of a crushing program in Lake Harbour during the next two or three years. I can't make any commitments. The only commitment I'll make would be to discuss it with the honourable Member who is responsible for Public Works to see if they can fit it into their long-term plan for crushing in these communities.

We're going to do the best we can. We're taking a hard look at Lake Harbour. It is recognized, both by myself and the honourable Member, that there is an enormous cost to building a new strip there. Hopefully, we'll be able to show it, in the long term, sometime in the capital budget down the road. That's what we're working towards at this time. Thank you.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Next on my list is Mr. Ningark.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Mr. Chairman, I would like to suggest that we sit until we conclude this department.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Mr. Ningark, the request has to be in the form of a motion.

Motion To Extend Sitting Hours, Carried

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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March 20th, 1994

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that we extend the sitting hours until we conclude the Department of Transportation.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. The motion is in order. I need a quorum, however. We need to sound the bells. We now have a quorum. There is a motion on the floor to extend the hours from 6:00 until we conclude the matter at hand, the Department of Transportation. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

We shall continue on. Mr. Ningark.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, like my colleague, Kenoayoak Pudlat, I recognize the honourable Minister for being very straightforward in dealing with our communities and our concerns. I know that the honourable Minister is not able to provide every request from the Northwest Territories, but he is trying his very best given the means and ways that he has within his department.

One of the things that I would like to recognize or commend the Minister for, is that there is an endeavour in Gjoa Haven to construct a road to 30-Mile Lake. I hope the Minister will consider this very seriously. For one thing, it's going to facilitate recreation in the community. There are no parks in the community as is the case in the larger centres. Also, a tourism facility would entail extra income for the community and also facilitate hunting. Subsequently, would provide

subsistence for the community within the limited opportunity in that community.

There is another request from the hamlet of Pelly Bay to build an all-terrain vehicle access road to Barrow Lake which is about 12 kilometres from the community. Also, Taloyoak, I think is planning to upgrade the road to Meadow Lake which was built many years ago. It is usable by trucks, but it is not very far from the community. I hope the honourable Minister and his staff will keep that in mind. Other than that, I don't have too many comments on this department.

I would also like to thank the Minister and express the appreciation of the community of Pelly Bay for bringing the barge into the community during the summer-time. They were able to bring in over one million litres of heating fuel, and I think this is providing a saving to the Government of the Northwest Territories. Sometime in the future, I hope we will be able to bring general supplies to that community. It gets to be very expensive bringing things by air. Also, I think we are very lucky because in the past we were able to get some fresh produce to the community from other points, in ways other than by air. I think bringing in supplies by barge is another way of transporting general supplies into the community. I don't want to prolong discussion on this matter, so thank you, Mr. Chairman. There was no question. Maybe it was question regarding access roads to hunting areas, tourism areas and so on. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. There was something in there about 30-Mile Lake, if the Minister would care to comment about it.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

As I said earlier, this access road policy...The credit really belongs to the honourable Member, Mr. Ningark. He raised the issue a year ago. The previous Transportation Minister had $200,000 in the budget. We've managed to move some more money in the budget. Our ability to build these access roads, and the amount we can build, is going to be based on our ability to find the appropriate funding. I want to assure the honourable Member that these issues are just as important as it is to build highways in the west.

On the issue of the sealift, we're pleased as punch that we were able to do our thing last year by bringing a shipment to Pelly Bay for the first time. I am told that there will be some dry cargo on the ship this year. In fact, there will be two ice breakers in the area. We're optimistic, that we can move some dry cargo, I believe the housing will be in Pelly Bay as an experiment. Perhaps, in the following years, all of it will be able to come that way, providing significant savings to this government. Thank you.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. General comments. Details.

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Directorate

Page 11-07. Directorate. Total O and M, $2.948 million.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Transportation Engineering

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Transportation engineering, $3.098 million.

Committee Motion 27-12(5): To Adopt Recommendation 34, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Marine Services

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Marine services, $4.384 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Highway Operations

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

Highway operations, $19.783 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Arctic Airports

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Arctic airports, $13.703 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Motor Vehicles

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Motor vehicles, $2.520 million. Mr. Arvaluk.

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James Arvaluk Aivilik

Mr. Chairman, is there any plan or idea that Transportation may consider for having a government insurance program for remote communities? For example, in my constituency we have to go to Churchill and Hyska's Insurance Agency, with the outrageous prices. Actually, it's not too bad if you're not living in Yellowknife, I learned that too. Are there any plans in the future to serve the communities with an insurance program? There are more and more vehicles now coming into a community, and the hamlet councils demand there be insurance for snowmobiles and four-wheel vehicles, ATVs. Qujannamiik.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Arvaluk. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

There are no plans to have this government involved in delivery of any insurance programs. Thank you.