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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 8.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 9.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 10.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 11.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 12.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 13.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 14.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 15.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 16. The chair recognizes the Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This section 16 talks about a collector. I don't know where to raise this issue, it is not in this act, but it has to do with people I know who use tobacco for spiritual reasons. Maybe I'll ask the Minister a question, if I may, Mr. Chairman. I don't want people who carry tobacco for spiritual reasons to feel paranoid or to be scared of police officers when they carry tobacco they use for spiritual reasons. I wonder if the Minister can tell me if they are protected and how they are protected if they travel around and carry tobacco.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Minister Pollard, would you be requiring your witnesses? When we took a break, they also left but we never called them back. If you wish, you still may call them back to assist you. Mr. Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

If I might, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Pollard. Sergeant-at-Arms, will you assist Mr. Pollard in seating his witnesses? Thank you. Mr. Pollard, prior to bringing in your witnesses, there was a question raised by the Member for Nahendeh that dealt with the question of persons using tobacco for spiritual reasons and the application of section 16. Mr. Pollard.

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, the amendments to the provisions within this act that we're proposing at this time are more liberal than the provisions that are already in the existing act. I don't believe people are being unduly harassed in the Northwest Territories at the present time for carrying tobacco. Certainly, if people are carrying tobacco purchased in the Northwest Territories in quantity, they have no fear of harassment by a peace officer. If it lays some fears to rest, I will make the statement here that it is not the intention of this government or of this act to persecute anybody in the Northwest Territories who may be carrying a large quantity of tobacco for spiritual purposes, as long as they've been purchased in the Northwest Territories or, if they've been brought into the Northwest Territories in the amounts we've just agreed upon when we amended section 5, Mr. Chairman.

I don't see anybody being harassed for having tobacco in their possession. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Minister Pollard. The chair recognizes the Member for Natilikmiot, Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I wholeheartedly support Mr. Antoine. I will give an example here. My community of Pelly Bay is a dry community, no liquor is allowed in the community, either beer, hard liquor, or wine. But for sacramental purposes, sacramental wine, the priest is allowed to have wine in church for the purposes of mass. Thereby, the priest is not breaking the law. It should be the same thing for the native people in the area of my colleague, Mr. Antoine, to bring in tobacco for ceremonial purposes, either from the territories or outside the territories. The precedent has been set within our own jurisdiction. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.