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Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 30.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 31. Sorry, I missed somebody. Clause 30. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, could I ask the consent of the committee to go back to clause 29?

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

The Member would like to go back to 29. Is that okay?

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Okay, we are on 29, then. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

MRS, MARIE-JEWELL: Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to make a couple of comments with respect to this clause.

The wording in it is pretty specific. Clause 29(2) indicates, "a student record shall include information that affects decisions made about the education of a student that is collected or maintained by the school or an education body and a record of those decisions and any other prescribed information."

First of all, they maintain student records for each student that is registered at any school. Now, I am concerned, and it didn't seem to be clear during the meeting with the Minister, that if information is obtained --for example, if your child requires psychological assessment or if you, as a parent, decide to take your child out for psychological assessment --and you do not want these records to be for school use but only for parental use, can the school, under this particular clause, have access to those types of records, because of the fact that it could have some effect either on the child's behaviour or determine the child's progress in the school or whatever? I just want to know if a principal somewhat demanded those types of records from a parent, either going through the medical centre or going through the parent, is there an obligation on behalf of the parent to provide those for the student records for school purposes? Thank you.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can advise the honourable Member, having discussed this particular matter with legal counsel, that information would not be a matter that could be required, requested or obligated to be part of the information. In other words, that is a private matter. The parent may choose to provide the information but if they do not, there is no requirement that information be available to the school for placement on a student record, because that includes the whole matter of medical information. Records and information are protected by other pieces of legislation and they are not matters that could be included, unless again there are medical circumstances that a parent wishes to provide to the school. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Nerysoo. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I just wanted that clarification for the record to ensure that this clause is, in fact, interpreted in that manner. I don't want to have irate parents, who may want to take the responsibility personally to get their child assessed, feel in any way intimidated by the school system to have to produce those records for their child's records with regard to determining progress of a child or whatever. So I felt it was fairly important to get that clarification with respect to that particular clause. Thank you.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell. You don't have anything else on clause 29? Okay. Can we conclude clause 29 then?

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 30. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a concern about section 30, subsection (4), which says that, "a member of a school staff may disclose information in the student records

where, in the opinion of the staff member, disclosing the information is in the best interest of the student." Mr. Chairman, this section has also been highlighted by AIDS Yellowknife as perhaps not being consistent with the requirement for confidentiality that might be expected. I guess the real question is, instead of saying under subsection (5), 'the professional must disclose to the student and the student's parents that they made the disclosure", why would we not say that they must seek the consent of the student or the student's parents in advance of the disclosure, which, as I understand it, would have to take place currently.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Nerysoo.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

This is the exception to the other components, section 30(1), (2) and (3). This is the exception where you deal with things like potential abuse, sexual or physical, where the parents may not wish to provide that information, and there may be other personal information that the parents may not want to expose but that the student might want. The other thing is that the teacher, as a result of discussions with the student, may have information that the parent would not want to disclose.

So that was the intention of the exception here to the other information above, those circumstances where I'm not certain if a parent would deal with or want to disclose, particularly where it says, "in the best interest of a student".

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Nerysoo. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can certainly appreciate the reasoning behind those arguments. My concern is still with the wording here, "in the opinion of the staff member." Somebody who has HIV or AIDS won't get much comfort from this section the way it's written right now. I guess what might help would be a clear statement from the Minister that the intention is not to breach confidentiality for illnesses or things of that nature, like HIV or AIDS, but instead to deal with situations of abuse as he has outlined.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you. Mr. Nerysoo.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are two specific issues: one dealing with information that is necessary to address the best interests of the student and; secondly, that disclosure is necessary for the establishment of support services. So it's very specific about the basis on which that information can be released.

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Thank you, Mr. Nerysoo. Anybody else on clause 30? Are we concluded clause 30?

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 77-12(7): To Amend Clause 27 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair Brian Lewis

Clause 31.