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Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Koe, to clause 5.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Fred Koe Inuvik

Under subsection (b), what definition of "residency" are we using in this act?

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Well, it's right there in front of you, but I'll ask Ms. Whitehouse to explain it.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Ms. Whitehouse.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

The residency is 12 months.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Whitehouse

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This section sets out three qualifications a person has to meet in order to be entitled to access the education program. You have to reach a specific age, which is set out in paragraph (a); in (b), you have to be a resident and if they are an adult, they must be a resident for 12 months immediately preceding the date of registration; and, they have to be a Canadian citizen or a child of a Canadian citizen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 5, as amended. Member for Thebacha.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I just need clarification Is it just clause 5.(1) that we voted on, or (1)(a), or does it include clause 5.(2)?

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I believe we voted on (1)(a), but I will get clarification from the Minister. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Yes, it was 5.(1)(a).

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

I am informed by the Clerk that, even though we're dealing with (1)(a) of clause 5, the motion as passed by the committee subsequently amended the whole clause, according to my understanding. Member for Thebacha, do you have a further question? Clause 5, as amended.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We'll move on to clause 6. Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

I don't have any questions about clause 6. I think clause 6 clarifies subsections (1) and (2), particularly subsection (2), which I was concerned about under clause 5.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Member for Thebacha, are you seeking consent from the committee to go back to clause 5.(2)? No? Okay, thank you. Clause 5 is approved. We're dealing with clause 6.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 7. I have Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a couple of concerns with clause 7. I noted in talking with the local school boards that they expressed concern that support services are not defined, in talking about inclusive schooling under clause 7.(1) and (2). I'm wondering if the intention is to define that in the regulations, or if we can get a clearer expression from the Minister about just exactly how support services will be defined.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Support services are for inclusive schooling. The problem with trying to articulate all support services is that each particular child may have different support services that are necessary, depending on the educational program they're involved in. The intention is for us to outline generally, in policy, what those program support services should be and then try to address that program with the student and the parents.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 7. Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess what is concerning the school boards is that it says that an education body "shall provide a student with the support services necessary." I guess the concern is that the Minister could, in fact, direct that support services be provided in excess of what funding might be provided to supply those services. Perhaps the Minister could advise whether this sort of thing will be covered by regulations. Is there some assurance that the Minister will not direct a school system or education body to provide services in excess of what the government is prepared to pay for?

Committee Motion 73-12(7): To Amend Clause 5 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair John Ningark

Merci. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Mr. Chairman, that will always be a problem, though. The fact is that unless it is clear that there is a requirement for the boards to provide the educational programming, the fiscal question will also be a primary and basic concern. The problem with that is that all children, no matter what circumstances they may be in or what problems they may be encountering, have to be given some right to an educational program.

I appreciate the concern that has been raised, but I think the issue is that there has to be better planning and better organization of the resources. We may not be able to deliver all those requests that are being made, but we may be able to organize it in a much better arrangement so that our resources are used better.

No matter what happens, Mr. Chairman, that issue of resources will always be a factor. There has to be consideration in the program that we offer, as well. But that should not be an excuse. The problem is that it's been an excuse for people to avoid deliver programs. I understand the concern that has been raised, but I think it's something that needs to be worked out.