Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an example of the way Inuit have survived difficult times throughout our past by working together. I would like to thank all those people who have helped so much in such a short time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Debates of Oct. 2nd, 1996
Topics
The Community's Support For The Family Of Jimmy Kanatsiaq
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic
The Community's Support For The Family Of Jimmy Kanatsiaq
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements, Mr. Roland.
The Impact Of Cuts And The Need To Re-evaluate Goals
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to welcome all colleagues back to the Assembly, I hope you have had a good summer. I would like to get the niceties out first and hi to my wife and children back home. I might as well keep up the tradition.
Mr. Speaker, during the time back home in the community of Inuvik I had a chance to hear many of the people raise their concerns and to sit back on reflect on what we have done and taken part in. I agree with the Premier's statement that we need to discuss whether we are meeting the standard of fairness and equity. It is time that we, as an assembly, sat down and seriously considered what we are doing, are we getting the value of our dollar and all the things we said we would be doing. Are we accomplishing the goal that was put before us?
We were told we would save a certain amount of dollars here and there and we agreed. We started to see the fallout of that and it would be interesting to hear other members, if what was said in our committee meetings and how it was justified in the reductions if we indeed, achieved those or if we have affected others in a different way or made things worse for others. Mr. Speaker, I think it is seriously time that we looked at our goals and are they achievable. I say this, not to say it is time to turn around and stop and freeze our pattern, but instead to say, are there some adjustments we need to do to achieve our goal that we set out in balancing the budget?
The Impact Of Cuts And The Need To Re-evaluate Goals
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Roland. Members' statements, Mr. Miltenberger.
The Impact Of Cuts And The Resulting Hardships In Communities
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the past year has been difficult. It has been difficult for the people in our constituencies who are coping with reductions to their schools, to their healthcare and to municipal services. It has been difficult for the staff who deliver the programs. Having to deal with new demands and increased workloads and changes to the way we do business, not to mention the layoffs.
It has been difficult for our non-profit organizations. In the past if an organization came up with a good idea for a program or service, the government was often able to help with funding. Now groups have to figure out how to manage with the resources they have or with less. It has been difficult for the small businesses in our communities. Small businesses are the heart and soul of our economy. As government cuts back there is a ripple effect throughout the community. People have less money to spend and less sense of security so they are more cautious with their spending, they sit on their wallets. Small businesses are hurt by this.
Mr. Speaker, it has also been difficult for the Members of this House. We have made decisions which we know will be hard on people. Unlike the south, most of us know everyone in our ridings. When we look at reductions we know who it will affect. When we agreed to tackle the deficit, we said we would ensure fairness and equity in the reductions. We agreed that everyone would have to take their share of the hardship and that all reductions would not be on the back of one group or one community. Clearly, disparities exist among major centres as a result of this year's budget and cuts. As we start in the next year's business plans, it is critical that these disparities be addressed if we are to move ahead.
Mr. Speaker, as we consider the budget for next year, we need to make sure that we are being fair and equitable to everyone. We also need to make sure we think through all the implications of each decision, not just what it does on the surface, but the ripple effect of that decision. We have one year under our belts, and I think we are all the wiser for it, and probably in a lot of cases sadder, but wiser.
Mr. Speaker, we know it will be increasingly difficult to stick to our plan. However, we need to remember the light at the end of the tunnel. If we can stay on course for one more year, we will balance the budget. The toughest decisions in this area will be the hardest. Thank you.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.
Achievements Of Tree Of Peace Friendship Centre
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends.) I would like to dedicate my first statement at the resumption of this session to a group of people who have been serving Northerners for more than 25 years. I am referring to the people both past and present who run the Tree of Peace Friendship Centre here in
Yellowknife.
As many Members know, the good works of the Tree of Peace extend far beyond the limits of this city. It has helped establish friendship centres in many communities including Fort Smith, Fort Simpson and Rankin Inlet. The Tree of Peace has also helped establish program we now consider fundamental components of northern life.
Let me note a few highlights of from its long list of achievements. In 1971, the Centre launched one of the first, if not the first, community-based adult education programs. In 1970, the Tree of Peace initiated the kindergarten, the first parent-child development program controlled by Aboriginal people. Sadly, this government terminated this kindergarten in 1994. In 1976, the Centre launched the first drug and alcohol awareness program for Dene and Metis people in Yellowknife. With Ingamo Hall in Inuvik, the Tree of Peace helped initiate the native court workers of the Western Arctic. This is an impressive list, Mr. Speaker, and it only covers a fraction of the friendship centre's activities.
Last night attended the 25th Assembly and Annual General Meeting, along with Mr. Henry. Several resolutions were passed with respect to the need for ongoing support from this government. Later in the week, on the return of the Minister, Mr. Dent, I will ask some questions in regard to funding support.
I am going to stop here except to make one more point. The Tree of Peace programs are initiated by the Dene and Metis people of Yellowknife for all peoples. As such, the programs are based on traditional values which make them all the more important. In a community like ours, it is easy to be distracted by the light and noise of city living.
In closing, I would like to thank the Tree of Peace and Mr. Tom Eagle who is in the audience today, his staff, Mr. Fred Koe who was elected as senator last night and who is in the audience today, for the difference the Tree of Peace has made in my community, and I hope that the Tree of Peace will thrive for many years to come. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.
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Achievements Of Tree Of Peace Friendship Centre
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Henry.
The Loss Of Seniors' Fuel Subsidy Program
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to take a moment to welcome back my fellow Members to your capital city.
Mr. Speaker, I have stated both in this House and to my constituents that cuts this government makes must be done fairly. Mr. Speaker, today I wish to elaborate on this. I was very upset to hear of the cuts to the seniors' fuel subsidy program. Seniors who are not on income support will no longer be eligible for this subsidy. It is unfair that those who have sacrificed to pay for their homes now have to pay more by losing this subsidy. Seniors are telling me that the ones that had been responsible and have taken precautions to provide for their future are the ones getting hit.
This government has also targeted in the last round of cuts, those who own their own homes by eliminating $1 million from the homeowners' property tax rebate program which meant a homeowner could claim back up to $300 on their property taxes. The vast majority of this cut in programming was absorbed by three communities. It is those that have paid already who end up bearing the burden. This is not fair. Everyone has to take the responsibility to contribute whether they are at the top or at the bottom of the scale.
The message has to be delivered that everyone contributed to our debt so everyone has to pay. We are giving a message that if you pay your taxes and make provisions for your retirement, we will target you. So if you do not look after yourself, that is okay. This government will take care of you with no responsibility or obligation. Mr. Speaker, that is wrong.
Employee cuts in the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation regional office send the same wrong message. Eight jobs were eliminated in the North Slave regional office. No other regional offices are seeing these types of job cuts. The offices in Yellowknife, we are told, are more efficient so they get the job cuts. Mr.
Speaker, this is wrong. We are penalizing them for being efficient. This is not fair. All regional offices have to also get the message. The message could be communicated by depleting some of their resources, but, instead, they are left relatively untouched.
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to finish my statement.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife South is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Continue your statement.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have been in this office for 11 months now and have consistently argued that necessary cuts in government programs and spending have to not only be fair, but be seen to be fair. The cuts to the seniors' fuel subsidy program and to the jobs such as the NWT Housing Corporation's regional office do not meet that standard. Why can we not promote the novel idea that all residents and all communities have to play their part in solving our financial difficulties?
My constituents, Mr. Speaker, are more than willing to play their part in assisting this government to solve their financial problems as long as it is done fairly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Henry. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca.
Community Empowerment And Alcohol In The Communities
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James Rabesca North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to welcome all my colleagues back for the next few weeks of hard work. We have had a bit of a break from the House over the last few months however our work is never done. With the number of activities that took place in most regions this summer I am sure most of us did not get much of a rest. It was however comforting to be with friends and family.
During this session we will be dealing with many issues that are effecting us and our constituents. We must be diligent and in some cases imaginative to ensure our people are receiving the best that we can offer.
Some areas of concern I have included, community empowerment. I would like to make sure that when transfers take place, there are enough resources to provide the services effectively, not give the transfer group less and be expected to do more.
Finding a way to control bootleggers in our communities is another issue that I think needs to be addressed. It seems most accidents and crimes are committed by individuals under the influence of alcohol and in most cases this is probably brought by the local bootlegger in the community. If we want our communities to prosper we must find ways to remove this burden. As you know, Rae-Edzo residents passed a plebiscite recently, restricting the amount of alcohol allowed by a person per month. This was brought into effect on September 15, 1996 and it is still rather early to tell how it will work, but I feel if given the support by the RCMP, the Department of Justice, as well as the various organizations in Rae-Edzo this will be the first step in ridding our community of this problem.
I know there are many issues that we will be discussing over the next while and I also hope our discussion will be meaningful and productive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Community Empowerment And Alcohol In The Communities
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Rabesca. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus.
The Social Envelope
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to welcome everybody back to Yellowknife. My statement today is in the area of the social envelope. The social envelope, as we all know, includes the Departments of Education, Culture and Employment, Health and Social Services, Justice, and Housing.
Mr. Speaker, every year, forced growth eats up a lot of our dollars. Last year, we had to reduce the social envelope's budget by almost $40 million. What we mean by forced growth is the cost that we cannot control because of a high birth rate which relates to higher health and education costs and those related areas. This year will be no exception. We will have huge forced growth in and around $30 million to $40 million. This means that unless there is an increase in the social programs area, there will have to be more cuts. Cuts that are tougher than the ones that were made last year. We have been told that the cuts that were made were the easy ones.
Last year, the majority of the Members agreed that each department's budget would be maintained at the same percentage of their overall budget as the previous year. That meant that if Education, Culture and Employment had 15 percent of the overall budget in 1995/96, Education, Culture and Employment had to have 15 percent of the budget in 1996/97.
Mr. Speaker, we also agreed that we would not balance the budget on the backs of those who can least afford it. Unfortunately, because by this we were frozen at the same percentages, tough decisions had to be made in the social programs area.
Rents were increased for seniors in personal care facilities. The fossil fuel subsidy was entirely deleted for some seniors, with no consideration for higher costs of living in certain areas.
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
The Social Envelope
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife North is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Erasmus.
The Social Envelope
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Social assistance was also lowered or income support as it is now called. We also decreased grants to organizations such as the Mental Health Association. We lowered the funds to the health boards, education boards and alcohol and drug rehabilitation centres. These are just examples.
The Minister of Education now indicates that our student/teacher ratio is now the highest in Canada. If cuts continue, we surely will be the highest in Canada. We also have the worst high school graduation rate in Canada. Now we are told that we have to close rehabilitation centres and hospitals while we have the worst rate of alcoholism and suicide.
Mr. Speaker, this government has a responsibility for the education and safety of our citizens. We cannot afford more cuts in these areas. This government must allow the budgets of the departments in the social envelope to increase in relation to other departments. I am not talking about keeping people on social assistance. I am talking about increasing the budget in the area of education and training so we can get people off of income support or social assistance. I am talking about helping our elders so that they can live independently, in dignity. I am talking about things like making sure the health of our citizens is a priority, not an afterthought to balancing the budget.
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The Social Envelope
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko.
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
I would like to recognize a colleague of ours, Fred Koe, former MLA for Inuvik.
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ootes.
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to introduce Members to Liz Wyman and Julia Mott. They are here today as representatives of the business firm of Office Compliments which has been awarded the contract to provide Hansard services to the Legislative Assembly. Some of you may also know Liz as the past president of the Yellowknife
Chamber of Commerce. She is here with her parents, Ferne and Bill Wyman, and also one of the original partners of Office Compliments, Marg Hall. I would like to close by extending my congratulations to Office Compliments on their tenth anniversary which is being celebrated Friday. Thank you Mr. Speaker.
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, and welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors from the gallery. Mrs. Groenewegen.
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River
Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize today one of my constituents, who is now temporarily residing in Yellowknife, Pat Thomas, the president of the Northwest Territories Teachers Association.
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And I would also like to recognize Lydia Bardak who is here today. Lydia is the executive director of the NWT Council for the Disabled. Her assistant was here, I wanted to recognize here too. After spending the summer on crutches, I have new appreciation for the work these people do, and I would like to recognize them today.
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors from the gallery. Mr Erasmus.
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Rosemary Cairns. Rosemary has run our elections with an iron hand, and she is a member of my constituency from Yellowknife North. She has also just come back from Bosnia to help there. I would also like to recognize Alderman Vi Beck. I would also like to recognize Doreen Baptiste, who is here from Saskatchewan. I met her when I was attending school there in Saskatoon. Also, my lovely wife Leonie, sitting with Doreen.
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