Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would now like to pass us on to the Deputy Chairman of the Committee. Mr. O'Brien.
Debates of Oct. 7th, 1996
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. The Honourable Member for Kivallivik, Mr. O'Brien.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next issue to be discussed is entitled "Inadequate Reporting by Crown Corporations and Others".
This year's report noted that many public entities, including Arctic College, N.W.T. Power Corporation, N.W.T. Housing Corporation, N.W.T. Development Corporation, N.W.T. Business Credit Corporation, Workers' Compensation Board, and the N.W.T. Liquor Commission, were not filing Corporate Plans and Annual Reports that met the requirements of the Financial Administration Act. Any reports for 1994/1995 were all submitted later than the time prescribed and Corporate Plans did not include the information required. Members were informed by the Auditor General's staff that the Federal F.A.A. requires special examinations of Federal Crown Corporations and similar entities every five years. The Committees agreed that a similar position would be useful in the N.W.T. F.A.A.
The Members' concerns were centred around the need to better monitor and evaluate the performance of Crown Corporations and other agencies, especially since many of our Crown Corporations carry out policy initiatives that would usually be done by Departments in other jurisdictions.
RECOMMENDATION # 3
The Standing Committee recommends that the Financial Administration Act be amended to provide for regular examinations of Crown Corporations and other entities of the government similar to the provisions in Part X of the Financial Administration Act.
RECOMMENDATION # 4:
The Standing Committee recommends that the Government amend relevant legislation, regulations and/or policies to provide that.......
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. O'Brien. I believe that you wanted to move Recommendation 3 in the form of a motion. Are you making a motion? Would you please state that "I move" and
then carry on. Recommendation 3.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you Mr. Chairman. I move that Recommendation # 3 be moved as a motion.
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The Chair John Ningark
You have to read it -- "I move the Standing Committee", and so on. Mr. O'Brien.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
I move that the Standing Committee recommends that the Financial Administration Act be amended to provide for regular examinations of Crown Corporations and other entities of the Government similar to the provisions of Part X of the Financial Administration Act.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. O'Brien. The motion is in order to the motion. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Yes, I have a question on this matter with respect to corporate plans. I note in the Auditor General's report that some $531,000,000 has been spent over the last five years through Arctic College, the Housing Corporation, the N.W.T. Development Corporation and the Business Credit Corporation.
What concerns me, Mr. Chairman, is that these corporations have not filed business plans -- apparently never have prepared them. I am wondering if I could get a question answered on that. Are these corporations now preparing business plans for consideration by standing committees? Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Todd
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Is the question in relation to the annual report or is the question in relationship to future business plans?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes, would you clarify the question for the Minister please.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Yes, I will. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My question pertains to future business plans similar to the business plans that are proposed for our Departments and my understanding is that these particular corporations have never presented business plans and I want to know if this year they will start presenting business plans, considering the fact that they have spent a half billion dollars over the last five years and we need to know what it is they are going and where they are going. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you. You know they did not spend it without legislative approval. I say that with all due respect to my colleague. Secondly, yes they will be developing business plans and corporate plans similar to what other agencies have done on a regular basis, yes.
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The Chair John Ningark
To the motion. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Does that not mean that the amendment to provide for regular examinations of Crown Corporations and other entities of Government similar to the provisions of Part X of the Financial Administration Act? Is that included in the Financial Administration Act, that business plans must be presented?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Corporate plans are always presented, Mr. Chairman, and we table the WCB Annual Report every year. Other Members and Ministers responsible table that on a yearly basis, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
I appreciate that reports are tabled and I am not speaking about annual reports because that is after the fact. I am speaking here about business plans in advance. Like I want to see a business plan for the Business Credit Corporation, I want to see a business plan for the N.W.T. Development Corporation, etc. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. We have just reviewed the mid-year
business plan of the government. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
We present the case when you present the budget in the business plans in these entities. I am not quite sure where the Member is coming from. I mean, when the old Department of Economic Development and Tourism presents its budget or presents the business plan for the N.W.T. Development Corporation; when the Department of Education presents the business plan for education, its business planner presents the business plan for Arctic College, etc. So yes, the answer is yes.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion. I hear a question. Others in favour of the motion please signify. Thank you. Down. Opposed. Motion is carried. Mr. O'Brien, please carry on.
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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
RECOMMENDATION # 4
I move that the Standing Committee recommends that the Government amend relevant legislation, regulations and/or policies, to provide that Crown Corporations and other entities of the Government, which do not meet the requirements of the Financial Administration Act regarding corporate plans and annual reports, have their budgets withheld until such time as these requirements of the Act are met.