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Edward Picco Iqaluit

I will repeat. For clarification, again I am not trying to be adversarial. My question is to the minister of Public Works and Services. Can the minister of Public Works and Services tell me, have any lay-offs, have people lost their jobs, or their jobs been downsized in 95/96 impending on plans that we are making for 97-98, in context with 97-98?

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Minister. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To be totally honest, I do not have a clue what he is talking about. I cannot understand the question. Maybe he can rephrase it.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco for the Premier could you rephrase the question so he can understand it?

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

If I have three or four more chances at it, I think I can get it right. I will try again. This will be the fourth time. I am asking if there have been any lay-offs in 95/96 based on projections or things that this government is doing or planning to do for 97/98. Now, anything that has occurred in the past should be able to be discussed. That is all I am asking.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier or Mr. Todd.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is the member referring to the future budget, that document?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

I do not know what document he is talking about. I do not. Asking me about what document I am talking about, what document? I am asking if there have been any lay-offs in 95/96 for plans of this government for 97/98. Have we laid off people six months ago because of plans that were progressing for 97/98? That is my question. I do not see any document. The only document I have is the division document.

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The Chair John Ningark

The indication that I am getting here is that it has been a long day. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Mr. Chairman. There have been no lay-offs or lay-off notices given out to do with amalgamation, the discussion paper that we are talking about now. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We have Mr. Henry and Mr. Picco.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

I am fine. My question has been answered.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

I just wanted to finish my line of questioning, Mr. Chairman, if that is okay? If that is the case, thank you Mr. Morin, I appreciate your answer. My second question is then, in the division document right here, is there anything in user pay user say that is part of the amalgamation process?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The user pay/user say was part of the budget last year. It has nothing to do with amalgamation. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

If user pay/user say has nothing to do with amalgamation, that was in the budget last year, does that mean then that the user pay initiative will not result in amalgamation?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Premier.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

The user pay/user say initiative was approved last year through the budget, when we talked about the budget and managers managing and being responsible within their own departments, the stuff that is before the House now is a paper exercise to move the money to the departmental budgets. A discussion paper on the proposed amalgamation of Public Works and Services, Transportation and the NWT Housing Corporation is a separate issue. It is an issue that is exactly what it says, a discussion paper. It has nothing to do with the other. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We have Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

(microphone off)

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The Chair John Ningark

Okay. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the problem we have here is that there are so many documents flying around it is like a blizzard. So, you cannot comment on one, you cannot comment on another, you cannot comment on budgets, so, as a legislature, as a MLA you are hand-tied, tongue-tied what you can ask. It is like a mine field trying to tread around these questions.

My last question, so I can let someone else ask a question is, will there be any amalgamation before April 1st, 1997 in this government with the plans we are looking at today, as a consequence of the plans that we are studying today? That is my question.