This is page numbers 89 - 106 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was safety.

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Members Present

Hon. Jim Antoine, Hon. Goo Arlooktoo, Mr. Barnabas, Hon. Charles Dent, Mr. Enuaraq, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Evaloarjuk, Hon. Samuel

Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Henry, Hon. Stephen Kakfwi, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Miltenberger, Hon. Don Morin, Hon. Kelvin Ng, Mr.

Ningark, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Picco, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen, Hon. Manitok Thompson, Hon. John Todd

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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson.

Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Beginning this Thursday, March 28, 1996, and running through to Sunday, March 31, 1996, Inuvik will play host to the 30th annual general meeting of the NWT Association of Municipalities.

This year's theme for the meeting is "community empowerment' in keeping with our own government's priorities and agenda for action. A series of workshops are planned on Friday, March 29, 1996, to draw out community government views and positions on this important topic.

Mr. Speaker, I look forward to attending the association's meetings and plan to participate in various sessions scheduled throughout the four days. Senior staff of the department will also be available to contribute and participate in the meetings. Also registered to attend these meetings are our colleagues, Mr. Henry and Mr. Roland.

I went to extend to the association my wish for a successful meeting. I am confident that Members of this Legislative Assembly will support me in saying that we look forward to working with the association and its member community governments towards our common goals, including community empowerment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, on April 7th to 14th, the Northwest Territories will join the rest of Canada in

celebrating National Wildlife Week. Throughout the week, the Department of Renewable Resources, schools and communities will take part in activities that recognize the public's role in protecting and managing this valuable resource. In Yellowknife, on April 14th, departmental staff will host a special "Amazing Sundays" wildlife event at the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre. In other communities, students can ask our wildlife experts questions through a special electronic bulletin board.

Harvesting wildlife has sustained northern cultures for thousands of years. Today, wildlife provides us with healthy foods, seasonal employment for trappers, guides and outfitters, clothing and material for arts and crafts, and the skills needed to harvest wildlife and make products remain valuable and connect us to our heritage. Through land claims agreements, the public role in managing wildlife has been formalized and is taken very seriously.

Mr. Speaker, in the Northwest Territories, we are fortunate to have productive wildlife populations that are managed on a sustainable basis to provide the maximum benefits to people. We owe a great deal to wildlife and, as a sign of honour and respect, I would like to invite all Members of the Legislative Assembly to join in activities that celebrate National Wildlife Week. Mahsi cho.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, role models are important for all of us, but they are particularly important for our aboriginal youth because they show how a healthy lifestyle is essential in helping youth achieve their dreams.

Someone our young people can look up to is Brenda Kanayuk of Pond Inlet who is one of only nine people across the country named as a national native youth role model. Over the next two years, Ms. Kanayuk will travel to aboriginal communities to speak to youth about adopting healthier lifestyles.

Mr. Speaker, Ms. Kanayuk has clearly made positive choices in her life and she spends a great deal of time helping others. She holds a number of leadership positions in the Baffin region. She credits her parents, grandparents and elders with helping her understand traditional values and approach life in a positive way.

Ms. Kanayuk and the others who have been recognized as national native youth role models will volunteer their time and take part in workshops, discussion groups or give presentations, depending on the wishes of the communities that invite them to speak.

Ms. Kanayuk celebrated the beginning of her term with the other role models during a gala evening hosted by the Governor General at Rideau Hall on February 23rd.

Mr. Speaker, the future will bring many challenges, particularly for our young people as they work to establish careers and families in a world that is changing very rapidly. Youth will have to work together to find their own solutions, but they will need the support of their families, their communities, aboriginal organizations and government.

Mr. Speaker, northerners can take pride in Brenda Kanayuk and the national recognition she has received. I am sure she will make a difference in the lives of the aboriginal youth she will meet in the coming years and help them learn to deal with change in a positive and healthy way. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi.

Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, this government has made a commitment to seek partnerships with aboriginal groups. I am pleased to report that progress is being made with respect to the delivery of economic development programs.

Sakku Investments Incorporated, the business arm of the Keewatin Inuit Association, the Community Futures Society in the Keewatin, and the Department of Economic Development and Tourism in the region have established the Kivalliq Partners in Development to improve business services to clients.

The partners have hired three cost-shared staff, all young people from the Keewatin who will work with departmental staff and employees of the Community Futures Society to provide one-stop shopping for the business community. This one-stop shop will improve the coordination of economic development services in the region, duplication of efforts and programs will be reduced, efficiency increased and access to programs improved. To increase efficiency and effectiveness even further, the partners plan to have Internet services available to every economic development officer in the smaller communities in the Keewatin by this summer, improving electronic access to business information and communications from around the world.

Sakku, NTI and the department have recently decided to pool their grant programs for small businesses in the region. The funds will be managed by the partners and allocated by communities. Decisions will be made at the community level which will give communities meaningful participation in their own economic development.

During this next year, the partners intend to research and develop an aftercare program, a youth entrepreneur program and amalgamate the management of Sakku, Business Credit Corporation and community futures loan portfolios.

To ensure increased business success, the partners have established a business training and resource centre in Arviat. The centre has a library of business training material and offers training courses in two languages at the community level. I am pleased to inform the House that the training centre has successfully delivered its first entrepreneur training module: an introduction to business bookkeeping.

Mr. Speaker, the results of this cooperative effort are very positive. The partners have invested $1.5 million to assist 30 small businesses expand their operations. This investment has generated 26 new full-time jobs and 31 new part-time jobs, with a payroll value of $1.2 million in the first year. By working together, the partners were able to achieve what they would not have been able to do alone: support this many applications to create badly-needed jobs in the Keewatin.

We have to do more with less in these financially-troubled times. The projected cost of departmental program delivery in the Keewatin will decrease from 41 cents on the dollar, to 30 cents. Mr. Speaker, this translates into an actual operational saving of over $150,000 per year. The other participants in the partnership are also realizing cost-savings with improved service.

Mr. Speaker, the Kivalliq Partners in Development is a great example of aboriginal groups and government working together to better serve the public. The results are very encouraging. I would like to congratulate the participating organizations, the leadership and staff for their efforts and vision. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Quyannimik, Ohaqte.

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Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize a recent initiative of the office of the Languages Commissioner. The office has organized an exhibit of student artwork to mark Aboriginal Languages Month and French Week. The exhibit is based on the theme "the importance of language in our lives" and is on display now in the great hall. Je suis tres impressione par la qualite des oeuvres d'art et la reflexion que les etudiants ont accordee A ce theme si important.

Language, culture and heritage shape how people understand the world and how they learn. Language and culture form the basis of the NWT school system, and are further supported through a variety of programs offered by my department, including the language bureau, support to museums and funding for community-based language and culture projects.

Be De Har Nah Tee, all efforts to emphasize the importance of understanding your own language are very important, particularly for young people, because the future of our official languages lies with them.

I would like to recognize the work of the Uqau-Silir-inir-mut Karni-sin-auyuq Nuna-ttiar-mi to draw attention to the importance of the NWT's official languages generally, and this poster contest in particular. Cela a evidemment encourage plusieurs jeunes de partout aux Territoires due Nord-Ouest 6 reflechir sur l'importance de garder leur langue et leur culture. Quyannimik, mahsi, marci, quana, merci, thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark.

John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Yesterday, Tuesday, March 26, 1996, we were advised by NorthwesTel that they have lost all communication with those communities served by the satellite Anik E2 in the Nunavut area.

Mr. Speaker, the question that remains to be answered is what is the alternative solution in the event that we lose communication again within the Territories. Mr. Speaker, Isaac Newton once said, "Anything that can go wrong, will eventually go wrong." I am sure that we live on the edge in the Nunavut area.

Mr. Speaker, what would happen if something tragic happened in the Nunavut area during the time when the communication system was out? Is there any alternative solution that the government can offer for our area in Nunavut?

During the appropriate time, I will be asking the Premier about the alternative solutions in the event this occurs again. Thank you.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq.

Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I have heard the Minister of Finance say that he is going to be fair and equitable in the cuts to wages and benefits. I know that he has a very difficult job. We all know that there will be reductions in wages and benefits to government employees. Mr. Speaker, I could accept these cuts if I felt that my constituents in Clyde River, Broughton Island and Pangnirtung were being treated the same as people with the same size families in other communities in the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, according to my calculations, that is not the case, especially for people with big families. For example, Mr. Speaker, I have considered the case of government employees with six children with a basic salary of $38,216 who live in Broughton Island. The end result of the new northern allowance is that my constituents with large families face a reduction of take-home pay and benefits of a whopping 37 per cent. This will happen in one year, Mr. Speaker. This is a big drop in wages and benefits.

If every government employee in the Northwest Territories with a family of six was having their wages and benefits cut by that much, it would be easier to explain to my constituents. That would be fair and equitable. However, Mr. Speaker, I understand that in some communities in the Northwest Territories that are on the road system, that same employee making $38,216, with a family of six, is only losing 11 per cent of their wages and benefits. Mr. Speaker, I don't think this is fair. What concerns me the most about this new system, Mr. Speaker, is that it is usually the longterm residents in my constituency who have large families.

Mr. Speaker, I am seeking unanimous consent to conclude my statement, please.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Enuaraq.

Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. These long-term northern residents are the people I would hope we would encourage to stay working for our government. According to the figures I have, a single person making the same salary in Broughton Island would only lose seven per cent under the new system of northern allowances. This also seems unfair to me, Mr. Speaker. Two employees making the same salary in Broughton Island lose seven per cent or 37 per cent, depending on whether or not they have a big family.

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate that the Minister of Finance wants to treat everyone with fairness. I would respectfully suggest to him that if he wants to be fair to people with large families who live in remote communities, he should review the proposed new wages and benefits to make sure that those large families and those who live off the highway system are not hit harder than those with small families and those who live closer to Yellowknife. Since there must be cuts, I would like to see everyone treated equally; whether they have a large family or not, whether they live on Baffin Island or on the highway. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco.

Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past few days in this House, I have talked about the newly announced package for employees. I have said that it isn't fair because reductions in Nunavut will be greater than in other locations. Mr. Speaker, I also note that there is a deficit problem. Instead of attacking this government on its plans, like the elimination of the Executive and Personnel offices, which I think are short-sighted and detrimental to this government, I should also be prepared to offer constructive ways to help this government overcome the deficit. Mr. Speaker, I have tried to do this in and out of committee. The role of the ordinary MLA is to provide the checks and balances for constructive criticism, as well as to congratulate this government when the opportunity arises. Mr. Speaker, that is why I have asked the questions that I have. I represent the constituency of Iqaluit; their concerns are my concerns. I have not forgotten that. I will continue to bring up matters that are important to my constituents.

Mr. Speaker, in a consensus type of government, where the boundaries between Cabinet and ordinary Members are not well defined, sometimes it is difficult to be critical without the feeling of being personal. I find this every day, Mr. Speaker. However, Mr. Speaker, questions must be asked, questions must be raised, questions must be spoken, or this government would be a sham. Mr. Speaker, as a rookie MLA, I have learned many things over the past few months. However, Mr. Speaker, I have not forgotten how and why I came here. I thank my fellow MLAs for their support, their constructive criticism of me and their camaraderie. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Picco. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas.

Parks Canada Grants Awarded To Community Groups
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's not often that an MLA receives good news; therefore, I'm very pleased to announce that two communities in my constituency have been awarded funds from the Parks Canada supplement to the Canada/ Northwest Territories languages agreement. The hamlet of Arctic Bay has been awarded $78,805 for activities associated with the construction of the traditional qarmaq. The Resolute Bay Hunters' and Trappers' Association has been awarded $7,500 to hold a workshop on oral history and the traditional knowledge of polar bears.

The Arctic Bay project is a tribute to the elders of Arctic Bay, who are specialists in the Inuktitut language and culture, who have successfully participated in community-based projects in the past by collecting traditional place names and who instruct cultural classes in Inuujaq School at all grade levels in Resolute Bay. The project ensures that Inuit traditional environmental knowledge and practical experience with polar bears and land-based cultural activities will be available for use in the cooperative management of the proposed Bathurst Island National Park. The Resolute Bay Community Lands and Resources Committee and the Resolute Bay Hunters' and Trappers' Association will carry out this work. I would like to congratulate my communities on this achievement and thank the Honourable Charles Dent and his department for their support. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to speak on the proposal by the government to transfer occupational health and safety from the Department of Safety and Public Services to the Workers' Compensation Board of the Northwest Territories. The proposed transfer includes mine safety and, I understand, may include the Labour Standards Board.

During the review of the business plan of the Department of Safety and Public Services by the Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development, a recommendation went forward that the transfer of occupational health and safety not proceed until further information, rationalization and justification could be provided back to the standing committee. To date, this has not been provided.

During the review, committee Members were advised by departmental officials and the Minister that in most other jurisdictions, namely the provinces, the workers' compensation boards have responsibility for occupational health and safety, including mine safety. In the last several days, a number of organizations have expressed concern to me about the government's plans. These organizations are: the NWT Chamber of Mines; the NWT Chamber of Commerce; the Yellowknife Chamber of Commerce; the NWT Construction Association; and, the NWT Association of Municipalities.

In the standing committee meetings, I was told that boards in all other jurisdictions in Canada have responsibility for occupational health and safety. Now I am told by some of the stakeholders that only four other boards in Canada have responsibility for occupational health and safety: Quebec; BC; Yukon; and, New Brunswick. The level of powers differ in each case.

I am also told that the levels of power and responsibility vary with each jurisdiction. None of them administer labour standards. Mine safety is the responsibility held by some WCBs but, again, the level of power and responsibility varies. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Ootes.