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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, I'm sure my community would be happy to meet with the Minister's staff. I would like him to be aware that, in the past, the community was involved in identifying property, traplines and cabins in the bush country that were of consideration and of concern to the
community hunters and trappers. We have been involved in the past. I'm not sure if your department is still doing this. I wanted to make the Minister aware of this.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, I am aware of it. The government and the department have been working with communities to identify cabins and trapping areas, and areas that are considered of high value to communities over the past number of years. I think because there's a fixed budget, if there's money going to be spent then it's going to be of a limited amount. That is the reason I suggested perhaps some staff can meet with community representatives from the Member's constituency to discuss what they think should be done, and we can talk about the kind of money and programs that we have in place to support communities, Then the community and the department could decide what the best use is of the existing dollars. For instance, we could spend $500,000 fighting fires in a trapping area, but we may be better off to take some of that money and just directly compensate the trapper, rather than spending all that money fighting the fire. At the end of the day, we need to make sure that the community has a say in the allocation of resources. I think, for me, that would be a good start.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Forest fire management. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the suggestion by the Minister obviously has its merits, but I don't know how a person would look at it that was watching his trapline and his cabin burn up. What value that would be to him? There might be a lifetime of work behind that, but the market value of everything there is very low. So I appreciate what the Minister is saying. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Before I recognize Mr. Henry, I would like the Members of this committee to join me in congratulating Mani and Tom Thompson on their 17th wedding anniversary.
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I also want to thank Goo for providing that information to me.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Henry.
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the communities with the program of $20,000 for initial attacks on fire, what agency or body is authorized in the communities to account and be responsible for that money?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
We would leave it to the community to make the proposal. It could be the mayor; it could be the local fire chief; it could be the Metis leader, or it could be a committee of community leaders, chaired byone of them. So we leave it to each community to come forward with a suggestion.
Just to get back to the comment raised by Mr. Steen, there are programs available, for instance, for trappers who are burnt out of their areas such as replacing their cabins, lost equipment to some capacity, plus looking at relocation of trappers. So there are possibilities for doing things that we can discuss with the community. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Forest fire management, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $28.13 million. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Section 9, page 21, detail of capital, forest fire management, buildings and works, headquarters, total region, $70,000. Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
It's going into the next section, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Total region is $70,000 for headquarters. Agreed?
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Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Buildings and works, Fort Smith, total region, $99,000. Mr. Picco.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Henry, do you want to go back to headquarters?
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South
No, I don't want to go back to headquarters.
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The Chair John Ningark
So, Fort Smith, total region. I have Mr. Picco and Mr. Henry. Total region. $99,000. Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the firebase, the heliport relocation in Fort Providence, I note that we are going to spend $20,000 this year. Future years is anticipated at $500,000. What's the reasoning behind relocating the heliport at the fire base in Fort Providence?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Chairman, the understanding I have is that the community wants that particular area for other purposes. The existing heliport or landing sites of helicopters are within the community, so we have to relocate.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Mr. Chairman, why does the community want the heliport relocated? Are they going to use the space for a playground or a park, or is it interfering with life or limb?
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