Debates of May 16th, 1996

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Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
International Travel Trade Representatives To Tour Yellowknife And Inuvik
Land Administration Program Graduates
Difficulties Experienced In Accessing Social Assistance Programs
Unresolved Issues Regarding The Thebacha Election And Fraud Allegations
Benefits To Be Realized By Creating A Single Office Of The Ombudsman
Lack Of Scheduled Airline Services Between Repulse Bay, Igloolik And Pelly Bay
Conflicting Development Initiatives On Northern Bathurst Island
Tribute To John Mackenzie Of Rae-edzo
Fisheries Opportunities In Central Baffin Region
Need To Enhance Sporting Facilities In Mackenzie-delta Area
Unsolicited And Unsigned Messages And Complaints
Tribute To Hon. Justice Mark De Weerdt On Retirement
Absence From The House
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Trades Representatives Touring Western Arctic
Eligibility Requirements For Social Assistance In Nwt
Improvements To Airline Flights For Igloolik, Pelly Bay And Repulse Bay
Status Of Federal Private Member's Bill C-222
Review Of Thebacha Election Process
Review Of Business Incentive Policy
Implementation Of Salary And Contract Disclosure
Update On Meeting With The Prime Minister
Cost Recovery For Search And Rescue In The Arctic
Chief Julius School Gymnasium Funding
Home Improvement Programs
Report On Affirmative Action Review
Reply To Requests For Intervenor Funding
NWT Airport Marketing Strategy
Northern Fuel Prices
Application Of Seniors' Housing Rates
Written Question 5-13(3): Education Issues In The Baffin Region
Item 9: Replies To Opening Address
Item 10: Petitions
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Rescission Of March 28, 1996 Committee Of The Whole Decision
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97
Committee Report 3-13(3): Standing Committee On Resource Management And Development Report On The Review Of The 1996-97 Main Estimates
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 23: Orders Of The Day

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The federal government is providing $750,000 to the total cost of this project, and the total cost -- if you look at the total capital project -- is $1.821 million. That is the total cost and there is $750,000 of it that is a contribution from the federal government. Thank you,

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Mr. Chairman, I would just like to check; I'm talking about the marine resupply terminal. I think you said there is $1.8 million on that. The figure I have in front me is $1.05 million.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister, on the total capital.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, the $750,000 for the marine resupply terminal is part of the total capital project. You have to add up this year's capital estimate, prior years' costs, future years, and that is $1.821 million. To be precise about this $1.05 million capital estimate for this year's share, the federal government is $525,000.

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The Chair John Ningark

Okay. Are you okay now, Mr. Henry? Total region is $3.324 million. We have Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman. I want to deal with this tonight but, when I agreed to do this, I didn't intend to bring my sleeping bag and spend the night. I don't mind free-flowing discussion on all of this, but I don't want to sit here for another hour nitpicking over stuff like this. So if we are going to proceed, fine. If not, I want to put a motion on the floor to report progress.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. There is a motion on the floor to report progress. Are you making a motion now?

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

I want to give it...

--- Interjection

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Miltenberger, you have the floor.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I just would like an indication from the committee because 9:30 is about the limit for me. After that, I want to put a motion on the floor to report progress because I have heard the discussion. We can talk about it more. The committee's made recommendations. We've heard the Minister. I don't know what more we want, personally. So let's either move on or go home.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I am told that that is not a valid question to be answered, although I have two other speakers who wish to speak. That's the only information I can relate to you. We have Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think the controversy is the resupply terminal and it has nothing to do with the tanker moorings. I commend the Minister for reallocating that money.

On the terminal itself, when we say "terminal," are you talking about a stand-alone breakwater? Are you talking about a building on top of that, like a terminal for storage of dry goods which will be unloaded?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This marine resupply terminal is a wharf with a dock, a dock-type wharf ... I guess it's the same thing. But there's no building on it and this also includes some site preparation around that particular facility. I have personally been to Rankin Inlet and I've personally seen the site where this project is going to go. I know that there's going to have to be some work in putting in the infrastructure. It requires some site preparation and some work around that area to build it up. So it's a substantial project and it is a stand-alone site. It's in the area where there could eventually be further development. As you know, this community is growing and they need to improve their facilities and, as a result of that, the amount of money that's allocated for it is to make sure that the work gets done and that it gets done right.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total region is $3.324 million. I have Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If the tank farm project were to proceed, would this project here be mandatory?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We would be doing this project regardless of whether or not the tank farm goes ahead. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Mr. Chairman, my question to the Minister is, was this component a part of the overall design when the tank farm project was being looked at?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Like I said earlier, we would be doing this facility regardless of whether or not the tank farm goes ahead and they required an additional facility such as that in this community. Whether this tank farm goes ahead or not, it was going to go anyway. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. O'Brien.

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Kevin O'Brien Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am still having difficulty in trying to understand the other uses for such a large project at this point in time. As I think Mr. Steen indicated, we are talking $50,000 to $100,000 for a wharf in Arviat, Whale Cove or one of the other communities, and we are talking $1.05 million here. What other uses and what types of ships will be coming in that would require this magnitude of a design or lay-out besides deep draft oil rigs?