Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Debates of May 23rd, 1996
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Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's a good point, yet this government derives 85 per cent of its revenues from the federal government and a large portion of those revenues come from the Department of Indian Affairs for status Indians. This was a band member who was an Indian, so you're telling me because this individual wasn't living here -even though you're willing to take money from the federal government for all aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories, which is based on the band lists -- that you will not fund those particular individuals.
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it's my understanding that contributions that are received for various services are based on a per capital basis, based on census statistics that are updated through the Department of Vital Statistics. I can't see how, if an individual doesn't reside in the Northwest Territories, we would be receiving funding for that individual, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What you're saying is the band list that the federal government has in the Department of Indian Affairs in Ottawa, a list of all registered Indians, every year the bands receive core funding based on this list and that this government does not require the same revenue based on the same formula.
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with respect to those band lists, the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs would have band funding, which is federal, and would not apply to this government, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister table in this House exactly how the allocation is made, with regard to Indian Affairs, for programs for the bands and those members so we can see exactly what you're talking about on that issue? Could you have that tabled in this House so we can see exactly how funds are allocated between the Department of Indian Affairs, the Government of the Northwest Territories and the particular aboriginal people who are registered under the Indian Act?
Supplementary To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
No, Mr. Speaker, because I don't have access to the information of federal funding to bands in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
Question 296-13(3): Provision Of Services To Non-resident Band Members
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ootes.
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Item 6: Oral Questions
May 22nd, 1996
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Transportation and it's in reference to a
memo I got today with regard to the Department of Transportation establishing a plan for division. Apparently, the plan was approved by Cabinet and the Financial Management Board.
I would like to first make reference to the report by the Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development. In its review, the committee recommended that the department not proceed with the planned transfer of PYs to Nunavut until incremental cost negotiations were finalized with the federal government. The department responded by stating that no substantial costs would be incurred until negotiations were completed. The committee, in turn, recommended that the Department of Transportation not incur any costs related to the transfer of PYs to Nunavut until negotiations are complete.
I'm informed that staffing for the first two years of the plan, 1995-96 and 1996-97, is essentially complete and investments have been made in office and computer equipment. There were two reasons for this. The second reason was to avoid major staff disruptions prior to division, by starting early to take advantage of vacancies that occur in Yellowknife in order to staff positions in the East. An assistant deputy minister position has been established and two other corporate positions were established in preparation for division. I understand these may be in Nunavut already.
With the completion of staffing of the three remaining positions, the eastern headquarters can operate for 1996. I wonder if the Minister could tell me ... My understanding was that no transfers were going to take place and no staffing was going to take place with regard to division.
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Transportation, Mr. Antoine.
Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member is referring to a document that he has received. It would be very good for me if I knew what document he was referring to. In the Department of Transportation, there are a lot of training documents and planning documents that are in existence. It might be one of the documents that he has access to. In reference to what the honourable Member is asking about, the last government had agreed to make changes to the Department of Transportation in terms of developing an eastern component of the Department of Transportation. This was done before I became the Minister of Transportation. There are planning documents in the works on how different scenarios could be developed.
It is good to do that because each department is looking at these things. Eventually there will be division. We have 33 more months before division and if we hold off on any of our plans or on how each department is going to look, we are going to be in trouble when division happens. So the Department of Transportation took the initiative in the last government to begin looking at how this department is going to function once division happens. There were some positions put in place by the last government. There is an assistant deputy minister in Rankin Inlet and there have been plans to put more PYs in the East. Upon the advisement of the standing committee, we put a hold on that. There are plans in place to do more of these transfers but, at the present time, this has been put on hold. Thank you.
Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.
Supplementary To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Actually, the document I refer to is a covering letter that the Minister sent to the Standing Committee on Resource Management and Development, of which I am a Member. The concern I have with this, Mr. Speaker, is that we, as a committee, were informed that no transfers would take place. There was one position established in March and yet the committee was meeting at that time. I am wondering why now we are learning that positions are being established. The committee should have been told about this. Why weren't we told about this?
Supplementary To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Mr. Antoine.
Further Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I knew exactly what position the honourable Member is talking about, perhaps I could be more precise in my answer. There was a position that was filled and the person who was in that position took on another job with another organization. This was a vacant position and we filled it. As for putting new PYs and new people into Nunavut in the Department of Transportation, we have taken direction of the standing committee and haven't moved any additional PYs into the East until we have done a review of the transfer. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.
Supplementary To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My specific concern is I understand an assistant deputy minister position for Transportation has been established and that it is in Rankin Inlet. My second concern is this was done to take advantage of vacancies that occur in Yellowknife in order to staff positions in the East. That, to me, is a transfer, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to know why that has happened.
Supplementary To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Antoine.
Further Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Department of Transportation, in the last government, made the decision to move PYs to the East. We are just following through with some of the PYs that have already been established in the East. As for putting additional PYs into the East, as per the planning document, we aren't going to do that until we review that process. For your information, the last government also moved Economic Development and
Tourism to the East, as well, into Iqaluit. They have positions that were established there under the last government.
Mr. Speaker, the specific PYs that were moved into Rankin, if you gave me clearer information on what the Member is talking about, perhaps I could be more specific in my answer.
Further Return To Question 297-13(3): Dot's Division Implementation Plans
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Just to caution the Members, the present Ministers aren't responsible for decisions made by the previous assemblies or Ministers. I would also like to caution the Member that he is making reference to a document that isn't tabled in this House and isn't necessarily within the Minister's knowledge. Mr. Ootes.