This is page numbers 619 - 646 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was communities.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chair. The cost for utilidor lots would be about $50,000. The cost of lots in Repulse Bay are much higher than that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

(Microphone turned off)

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

I believe we understood $50,000.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Madam Chair, the Minister also said that a developed trucked lot in Repulse Bay was $38,000.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Is that correct, Mrs. Thompson?

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is what I said. Repulse Bay is currently approximately $38,000 a lot. The new lots last year, because the rocks had to be crushed, were costing $80,000 or $95,000 a lot because there is no more gravel. They were $38,000 a lot for the lots before. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I wonder if the department would have a quote for a trucked lot in Rankin Inlet.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Steen. Mrs. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chair. A lot that has trucked service in Rankin Inlet is probably about $18,000 without the cost of the truck delivery and sewage pump-out. The $50,000 a lot would include the cost of the service to the lot. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chair. I will ask this question and then I will let someone else ask. Does the community have access to sewage, pump-out and water delivery system by truck?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Steen. Mrs. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, they do at this time.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Madam Minister. Continuing on, we will go to Mr. Evaloarjuk.

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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Chair. I just want to make a comment. I am not pointing a finger at the Minister. She is a new Minister dealing with this department. Perhaps if I had read through the main estimates previous to our meeting and under general

comments, maybe I should have brought up my comments. However, being on page 10-31, looking at this page and the amount of funding, it is over $12 million. I am happy that this would be allocated to the Nunavut region; however, part of the communities in my constituency have projects in the five-year capital plans; some have been deferred, however. That is the way I am understanding it. Why didn't they defer this funding for another time? I have heard from the people that the Ministers'...It has been said before that the ridings of the Minister tend to get more capital projects than any other ordinary Members' ridings. This has been done in the past. St.

Listening to the CBC News this morning, the government has already made five-year plans for each community. So those plans can't be changed in between those five years. I am not particularly...

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

There is a point of order being raised by the Premier.

Point Of Order

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Chair. I don't know if the translation came across correctly. It is my understanding that the Member says that Ministers' ridings get more capital than ordinary Members' ridings. That isn't true. Capital is given out by this government on need and need only. If the Member is saying that the Ministers of this government are pork-barrelling into their riding or padding their riding, that isn't a true statement. I would like that statement taken back. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Premier. I can't say for sure whether the Member said that Ministers' ridings do receive more or it would appear to be that they receive more, but we can check the transcripts to see exactly what Mr. Evaloarjuk did say, It is a good point raised in that Members should be cautioned not to imply motives or attribute actions to Ministers which could be speculative and negative. We will defer a ruling on that statement until we have had a chance to look at what he said.

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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Chair. I apologize for the short comment I just made. However, being a Canadian, I cannot just sit back and listen to what is being said without having the freedom of speech. However, we have to abide by laws that have been established for us. Having said what I just said, I just wanted to make that comment because in the past, it seems like that has been the case. However, I apologize for the comment I just made. Being Members of the Legislative Assembly, we are told that we can't change plans that have already been in place from previous operations of government. I just wanted to say that I am quite happy about this funding. I am asking this question. Will I be able to get half of this $12.5 million for my communities? Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk. Madam Minister.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Chair. We can't just go in there and take half the money. I am saying no. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Buildings and works, Keewatin, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

I would like clarification. You are saying that anything that is in the capital plan to date can't be changed. So once we make a decision here, we live with our decisions. Using Rankin Inlet, it says future years, $6.714 million. That can be changed. You said nothing can be changed once it is in here and I don't think that is the case. That is why we are here debating it. This is the only place where we can make changes to the budget.