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Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have made it very clear many times in this Legislative Assembly or in Committee of the Whole that we no longer can afford to have the level of civil service that we have today. We no longer can afford to spend the dollars that we're spending today, in the future, if we're going to balance the budget and move ahead and have good programs and program delivery at our community level. The message I've gotten out -- and I've said it publicly many times, and I've said it to my own chiefs -- is that it's completely up to you. You can make the decisions where the cuts are, or you can make the decisions of how things happen in your community, or they can be made in Yellowknife, but it's up to you. If you take on community empowerment, you will make those decisions. Our government will not keep the same level of civil servants, or layers of levels of civil servants at the regional and headquarters' levels. We no longer can afford it. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

From what I heard, the Premier is stating that community empowerment has to happen; it's not a choice. The Premier has just stated that we're going to downsize the number of civil servants and that's the area of my concern. I appreciate that, yes, communities want to control their own services, but I also want to ensure that those communities that don't want to take on control of services, that the level of service amongst our public servants is maintained. I guess that's the question that I wanted to originally ask of the Premier. Will this government assure us that our level of service will be maintained for those communities that do not wish to undertake community empowerment?

Supplementary To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like I said previously, I've already made it quite clear to all the communities; where do you want the decisions made, at your community or in Yellowknife? The majority of them got back to me and the majority of the ones I've talked to have said that they want to make those decisions. Moving ahead and moving towards April 1, 1999, moving ahead even next year, there's no doubt in my mind that we are not going to have the same level of civil servants that we have today. We have to reduce those numbers, we no longer can afford it. So whether you have community empowerment or if we decide not to have it, you will have fewer civil servants serving the program delivery portion of this government. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Ootes.

Supplementary To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

I'll ask a very blunt question, in that event. Does that mean that community empowerment has to be accepted by the communities?

Supplementary To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin.

Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll give him a very blunt answer: No. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Question 333-13(3): Communities' Choices In Community Empowerment
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I had asked questions to the Minister responsible for Transportation, and I have more questions today to the Minister responsible for Transportation, to do with the all weather road between Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk. Yesterday, the Minister told me that there were different classes of roads, and the one that was in the proposal was based on the roads that were in the area. Can the Minister tell me, for example, the Dempster Highway, what class of road is that? Are there different classes? Is there a level of A, B, C; 1, 2, 3; or so on? Thank you.

Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Transportation, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the road that the people in the Delta, Inuvik and Tuk have been asking for has been in the plans for quite some time now. I just want to refer back to the 1990 transportation strategy, the 1993 transportation agenda and the 1994 transportation strategy update that all had in their plans for such a road to be eventually built. This is a long-time, longterm plan to build such a road. The type of road that we're talking about was just a very rough estimate, to the tune of $160 million that it would cost. This was based on similar types of work that was done in that area, in the Delta; the Dempster Highway. The type of material, the type of work that all went into the construction of the Dempster Highway to Inuvik. That was what it was based on.

As for whether it's A, B, C; 1, 2, 3; 1 can't tell you at this time. But if you want the specifics of that, I could get back to the Member at a later time. Thank you.

Return To Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. We've only had half an hour of question period, but there is going to be a seal coat fashion show that the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism invited us to see, so we will take a break until the fashion show is over. There will also be refreshments out there, following the fashion show. So we will take a break.

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Return To Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Question 334-13(3): Class Of All-weather Road From Inuvik To Tuktoyaktuk
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The House will come back to order. We are still on question period. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

May 27th, 1996

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will refer again to Tabled Document 53-13(3), Report of the Auditor General for Canada on the Legislative Assembly of the NWT. Mr. Speaker, the WCB manages an investment portfolio of some $135 million on behalf of the stakeholders. In 1993, the income from the investment holdings was reported in its financial statement as $13.6 million, some 60 per cent of its assessment income for that year.

However, in 1994, investment income fell to $4.8 million and represented less than 20 per cent of the assessment revenue. The WCB's recently-tabled corporate plan contains a reference to the board's 1994 investment returns being lower than projected, but notes that increased assessment revenue and reduced operating costs managed to offset this adverse effect. This does not explain, as is explicitly required by the FAA, the year over year changes and returns from this significant business activity. My question is why.

Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

Return To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
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John Todd

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The returns on WCB's investment portfolio are based upon the marketplace; what they invest in, what the market is doing at the time. Sometimes it is up, sometimes it is down and that is why its investment strategy is over a five and 10-year period of time and eventually it balances itself out. I believe I said in the House earlier last week that they have done an outstanding job and have been able to get somewhere around a 21 per cent return of its investment. So the investment component of the WCB is no different than your own personal investments when you invest in the stock market or bonds. They fluctuate up and down based on the market.

Return To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I understand that, but it doesn't explain, as required by the FAA, why it wasn't reported. So without information on results like this, the Legislative Assembly and the Members can't review the effectiveness of managers and the board. This was pointed out by the Auditor General. Again, my question to the Minister is has he been investigating this, after tabling a report by the Auditor General for Canada, which points out that the investment of the Workers' Compensation Board is not following the principles of the FAA. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Auditor General says lots of things, but that doesn't necessarily mean to say we agree with him. However, I will look into the matter and get back to the Member.

Further Return To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, the Minister said he would get back to me on the investment plans of the Workers' Compensation Board. Of course, we know there is only one day left. Because the FMBS is under the Standing Committee on Infrastructure, of which I happen to be the chair, will the Minister provide said information on the investment activity of the WCB and why it isn't conforming to the Auditor General's report under the FAA, which is the Financial Administration Act?

Supplementary To Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of Wcb Investment Returns
Question 335-13(3): Explanation Of WCB Investment Returns
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.