The Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment, Mr. Dent.
Debates of Jan. 30th, 1997
Topics
Question 165-13(4): Regional Librarian Positions
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think that the answer to this question is the same as I have given in the last couple of days. The positions have been eliminated across the Northwest Territories. It is a budgetary measure, but it is also one that we feel will not have a significant impact on community libraries, because support can still be provided through other means. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Mr. Todd thinks it is a good answer, but 4,000 other people do not. In the past, Mr. Speaker, the Minister has talked about technology, and how that will help when the regional librarian is gone. Is the Minister indicating, when he talks about technology in small communities in the Baffin, that modern technology has reached a point where it can replace people?
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, I think I have answered this question previously. The technology is progressing to the point where we believe that
certainly in the next little while, the services will be delivered adequately to all communities. Thank you.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sometimes I think this technology is becoming almost like a frankenstein monster that we are creating. Mr. Speaker, the community was not consulted with the removal or supposed lay-off of the regional librarian position. Is that community empowerment? Is that community consultation that we keep priding ourselves on in this House? I have raised my concerns before the preservation and use of Inuktitut in this House, and one of the advantages of having a regional librarian in the Baffin is to deal with Baffin communities, is that she has that quick access to Inuktitut language speakers who could help clarify requests and queries. I am sure that the staff in Hay River do not have that same access, especially since the same Minister is also proposing to eliminate the interpreter translator services at the language bureau. It is very hard for me to get my question out Mr. Speaker, when the people across the floor are interrupting me. Can the Minister indicate how language difficulties in requests by many of the unilingual people in the Baffin Region can be addressed by people in Hay River? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 165-13(4): Regional Librarian Positions
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. To remind the Members again to have your preamble and then three supplementaries.
-- Applause
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this was not a community position that was being eliminated, and does not in anyway tie into community empowerment. Therefore, we are not proposing to eliminate any community librarians.
The positions that we are proposing to eliminate, there are two of them, one in Keewatin and one in the Baffin, are the only two regional positions left in the Territories. It is difficult for me, as Minister, to stand up and say that two regions deserve special treatment, when we cannot put the regional librarians into other regions in the Territories. We are confident, Mr. Speaker, that the services will still be available electronically to all community librarians across the north. Thank you.
-- Applause
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco.
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would not need a long preamble or a long lead in time in the question if the Members would give the dignity and respect, and decorum in this House that, I think, we should be generating to the people of the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, the Minister said that he cannot afford to keep the librarian position in Rankin Inlet, and cannot afford to keep it in Iqaluit because it is not anywhere else in the Northwest Territories. Does that make it right? We cut two people because we cannot afford to put them somewhere else? I do not think that is good politics. I do not think that is good government. So, my question to the Minister is will he rethink, will this government rethink, will this department rethink the layoff notice given to the regional librarian in Iqaluit and also in Rankin Inlet? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake
Mr. Speaker, the Member may not think it is good politics, but I have presented other arguments as reasons for what we are doing. Those being that we can maintain the services without those positions. Therefore, Mr. Speaker, the answer to his question is no.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.
Question 166-13(4): Rural And Remote Housing Program
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of housing. It is in regards to the old R and R housing programs, which a lot of them were built in my constituency, and which to date people are still paying mortgages on those units. At the time of signing those mortgages, their understanding was that it was going to cost them $59,000 to build these units, and also they use that equity to build these. Yet, some 20 years later, they have paid in the range of $130,000 on these units. Yet, they are continuing to pay monthly. To the Minister of the Housing Corporation, can he tell me if the department is looking into this matter and trying to resolve it? Thank you.
Question 166-13(4): Rural And Remote Housing Program
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. Mr. Arlooktoo.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Speaker, it is a fact of life that with these long term mortgages that in most cases you will be paying for 20, 25, 30 years on the mortgage before it is paid off. I am aware of the concern that the Member has raised. It has been raised by the Member from Fort Smith several times to me. We are looking into the concerns raised.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My supplementary, could the Minister inform the clients who have received the R and R housing program that you are looking into the matter, so that it can resolve some of their concerns also?
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Arlooktoo.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Mr. Speaker. What I will do is talk again with my staff in the Housing Corporation and see if there is, in fact, anything that we can do, but I do not want to do with these homeowners is to raise the expectations that we may be changing their payments. So, I will look into it first before making any inquiries outside.
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister give me an idea on the timeframe that we are looking at in regards to this matter being resolved, and how soon can you resolve it?