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Return To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister indicate whether in fact a draft has been developed that does indicate that the plan is to cut discontinued library funding to try to parcel it out in a more equitable fashion, but not put any more new funding in? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe that there has been a draft that has been circulated for public comment. It certainly does not represent a position taken by the department. We are at this point in time, looking for comment only and there have been no decisions made as to how to proceed with this project from here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister indicated that they have gone to the public for consultation. Could the Minister indicate the type of public consultation? Have library boards, for instance, been consulted at that level? My understanding was this was still a fairly exclusive piece of documentation.

Supplementary To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe that the process has become a public process yet. I think what has happened is that there have been some ideas kicked around. The department is looking for some guidance in terms of what would make sense to some people out there and I expect that the consultative process will broaden after there has been some refining of the initial kick at the can, if you will. Thanks.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate whether he would be also referring the document, when it is ready, back to the appropriate standing committee, so that we as well could have input into this territorial wide review? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been the policy of this government to ensure that the Committees of this House are brought into the picture and we seek their guidance when talking about changes in policy. There will be no exception in this case, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 190-13(4): Community Libraries
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
Item 6: Oral Questions

January 30th, 1997

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment, the Honourable Charles Dent. The letter dated January 8, 1997, addressed to the District Education Authorities and Divisional Education Councils, the Minister outlined the terms under the new Education Act regarding principals who are already hired on indeterminate status. Section 63(1) of the Act requires principals to be hired on terms not exceeding five years. In this letter the Minister declared that all principals hired in indeterminate positions are notified that their status will end as of June 30, 1997, and they will then be deemed to be hired on a five year term, running from July 1, 1997, to June 30, 2002. My question for the Minister is: why are principals guaranteed positions for six years from the time the Act came into force?

Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, jobs are not guaranteed for anybody. What has happened is that there has been a change in the type of employment. Until now, principals have been employed in indeterminate positions, in other words there was no term involved. The new Act, which came into effect on July 1, 1996, states that principals could no longer be hired on an indeterminate status, but for five year terms. Until the Act was proclaimed on July 1, the principals were still in indeterminate positions. With the new Act coming into force on July 1, we then had to give principals notice. According to the collective agreement, they are required to receive 60 days notice regarding any change in the terms of their employment. Since the Act was not in force 60 days prior to July 1, 1996, that notice could not be given in advance, it could only be given subsequent to the Act coming into force. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, now if I understand the Minister correctly, it would seem that this policy will go on after 1997 and of course if it goes on after 1997 the implication here is it goes on after April 1, 1999, to the year 2002. So can the Minister confirm to me that this government, then, in this new Act, is guaranteeing employment to the principals after the year 1999, the year 2000, the year 2001 and 2002, as outlined in his previous statement. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, that is not a correct interpretation. The correct interpretation is that the maximum term of employment for a principal is five years, after which that term can be renewed by the Divisional

Education Council, if they should so choose. There are always methods to remove an employee who is not doing a good job. Do not think that this is a means of guaranteeing employment. It is just notification to principals that the terms of their employment have changed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco.

Supplementary To Question Principals' Employment Contracts
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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain to me then how this policy has been directed to the local education authorities as keeping with the community empowerment initiative by setting time limits, and so on, and the appointment of these very important people in smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question Principals' Employment Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would concur with the Member's comment that these are very important people in every community. I think that principals, by and large, across the Northwest Territories, are doing exceptional jobs in difficult circumstances. The previous Legislature saw a need to change the legislation so a principal's position was no longer indeterminate but was limited to a maximum of five years. Because that is set in legislation, we had no choice but to enforce it. The letter that has gone out is a clear response to legislation and is not tied to the community empowerment initiative. However, I would like to point out, Mr. Speaker, that the Education Act is probably one of the best examples that we have of community empowerment, already in place, in the Northwest Territories. Local communities, through this Act, can have, in consultation with Divisional Education Councils, significant powers in the administration and running of the schools in their communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 191-13(4): Principals' Employment Contracts
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.