Mr. Speaker, I want to assure my honourable colleague all aspects of this issue will be on the table. I want to apologize again both to him and to his other eloquent ally to his immediate right, Mr. Floyd Roland, who spoke so eloquently about this issue in a number of occasions that we will bring all of the players to the table as quickly as we can. I also apologize to the users out there that we should have had this meeting earlier and I take full responsibility for it not happening. I will also take responsibility for it happening. Thank you.
Debates of Oct. 7th, 1997
Topics
Further Return To Question 611-13(4): Ardicom Digital Communication Network
Question 611-13(4): Ardicom Digital Communication Network
Item 6: Oral Questions
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Further Return To Question 611-13(4): Ardicom Digital Communication Network
Question 611-13(4): Ardicom Digital Communication Network
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Picco.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
October 6th, 1997
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, each time beer and liquor is purchased in the Northwest Territories, a percent is charged back as a deposit fee. My question is what happens to that deposit fee charged less the refund when the empties are returned. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister responsible for the Liquor Licensing Board, Mr. Todd.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, my apologies. I did not catch the question. I wonder if my honourable colleague could repeat it again because I did not have my hearing aid plugged in. Thank you.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Picco, would you repeat your question please.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If you had to follow the Internet, you would have had heard that. Mr. Speaker, each time beer and liquor is purchased in the Northwest Territories, a percentage is charged back as a deposit fee by the user. The person who buys the beer has to pay a deposit fee. What
happens to the deposit fee that is charged less the money that is returned when the bottles are returned, when they are brought back? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not really have time to look at the Internet or the time the people were saying about me as Mr. Picco does but I understand anyway. My understanding is that any revenues that are net revenues generated within the liquor component rolls back into the revolving fund. That is my understanding of it. Thank you.
Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral question. Supplementary. Mr. Picco.
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, that revolving fund I understand has a considerable sum of money in it that could be used to help facilitate some of the social problems that we have tabled about in this House. Can the Minister tell us what happens to that revolving fund?
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It revolves. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary. Mr. Picco.
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It sounds like the Minister is in orbit. My question is this, Mr. Speaker, when x number of thousands of beer and liquor is sold in the Northwest Territories this government charges a fee for let us say ten cents a dozen of beer. If those beer bottles are brought back, the person gets refunded so there is a considerable amount of money that is being accumulated in this revolving fund. My question is what we are doing with that money? I know it is being orbited somebody should give Mr. Minister a lesson on the planetary orbiting as we go back to the planet Vega. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know it is a serious question so I will try to answer to my good friend, comrade Uri, but Mr. Speaker, any revenues that are generated from the sale of liquor whether it is in the sale of liquor or it is in the ten percent that we get on the bottle of whatever goes back into the general fund of the government at the end of the day and on the balance sheet in relationship to revenues. I have said many times that I cannot say where we got $30 million with the sales here, we are netting out $10 million or let us assign that $10 million to specific programs. That money goes in the general revenues. Any expenditures not set frequently to the House and the committees that required on the social end of things have to come through the normal business planning exercises, et cetera. and voted on this House. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral question. Supplementary. Final supplementary. Mr. Picco.
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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Edward Picco Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In other jurisdictions, I understand that money raised like for example on the deposit that are used to help develop social programs, I am wondering then if the Minister could look at takings of this money in this revolving bag holding an escrow and use it for social programs charted that way. Is that a unique aspect that has been done in other jurisdictions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Todd.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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John Todd Keewatin Central
My goodness, Mr. Speaker. My honourable colleague is the chair of the committee. He has been active in the budgetary process for two years. He knows full well that is not the way in which we do things. The social envelope, Mr. Speaker, and I have said on frequent occasions when we did, our budgetary exercise was reduced only 1.5 percent. In fact, we put more money back into the social envelope through re-profiling of dollars later on after the budgetary exercise was completed a year ago. We are not prepared, even though it is done in other jurisdictions, to say out of the liquor fund we are going to put x amount of dollars towards a specific preventative program when it has to go through the budgetary exercise, through the planning stage and through the committee process and is assigned the appropriate priority which I think this government has clearly demonstrated. And through it reduction program because, as I said earlier, we only reduced the social envelope 1.9 percent. The answer would be no, I do not think that is the way we would do business. I am surprised my colleague would ask that question given his experience, depth of knowledge, as a chair and active opponent in this House of the economic ills of the under privileged, etc.
Further Return To Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
Question 612-13(4): Deposit Fees On Liquor Containers
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq.
Question 613-13(4): Broughton Island Environmental Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Honourable Mr. Kakfwi. The community of Broughton Island have expressed concern over
possible chemical contamination at the abandoned side of an old United States Coast Guard Weather Station at Padloping Island. Will the Minister state when this abandoned site at Padloping Island is scheduled for clean-up? Also, can the Minister tell me what rule the Department of Wildlife and Economic Development has insuring the clean-up site at this old land site. Thank-you.
Question 613-13(4): Broughton Island Environmental Concerns
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. Mr. Kakfwi.
Supplementary Question 613-13(4): Broughton Island Environmental Concerns
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Mr. Speaker. There is at the request of the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs some work done to asset the environmental conditions of the island that the Member is referring to at Padloping Island. The investigation, as far as I know, has been completed. In general terms, the biggest challenge at that site is clean-up of the enormous amount of debris that has been left on site. Most of this is building material. The chemical contamination, as far as the investigation is determined, has been limited in the area, that is, with remedial work to the soil. Some clean-up of the soil sites. Most of the work seems to be at this time in regard to general clean-up of the garbage and debris that has been left behind by the defence people after vacating the area. I believe that area is targeted for clean-up by the federal government by the year 2000. Thank-you.