Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I think you are on the wrong page. I am still on treasury, activity summary. Treasury, total operations and maintenance, $7,381,000. Agreed? Mr. Krutko.
Debates of Feb. 10th, 1997
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Yes, in regards to O and M, 97/98 was $7,335,000. This year it is $6,334,000. It has decreased by a million dollars. Where was that decrease? Why was it?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, that was a decrease in borrowing costs and insurance premiums. My apologies. That reduction, (I need glasses too, never mind the hearing aid) was in borrowing costs, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to borrowing costs, is that the money you mean you borrowed from financial institutions that we lost a million dollars or it cost us?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, well it is the cost of borrowing money, Mr. Chairman. We borrowed less money so we have less costs.
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The Chair Vince Steen
So I understand that it cost you 14 percent less because you borrowed less money.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Interest rates of course, as my colleague here, Miss Melhorn, has indicated have gone down but borrowing costs are less than they were the year before. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Total operations and maintenance, $7,381,000. Agreed? Total expenditures, $7,381,000. Agreed? Now we are on Bill 8, Appropriation Act. 1997/98. Finance, fiscal policy, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $701,000. Agreed? Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
In regards to the policy, do you monitor exactly the expenditures that are spent in say, communities such as, distribution by community by community, to ensure that there is a fair equitable distribution of funds to each community? Is that part of the policy?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, we do not have community expenditures in this budget, Mr. Chairman. We just look after revenues. Expenditures are in the departmental and other budgets. Thank you.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Well, since you monitor revenues and taxes, each community pays taxes in regards to, do you monitor the amount of taxes are paid, in particular communities, across the Territories? So you know exactly which community is wealthy and which ones are poor and cannot afford to pay taxes?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, I will try, Mr. Chairman. We monitor our revenues and taxes on a territorial-wide basis. I do not know if we monitor it by the communities and say this community contributed this amount. I would have to check into that but certainly I do not have that information available here today.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Todd. Total operations and maintenance, $701,000. Agreed? Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is there chance in getting a copy of that breakdown so we can see exactly where the taxes are coming from and exactly who is paying taxes and who is not and who cannot afford to pay taxes and who can?
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John Todd Keewatin Central
If that information is available, I would provide it to my honourable colleague. If it means that we have to go out and do a whole bunch of work, the answer is no. We have got enough to do just to keep above water and if it is available, yes we will provide it but I am not going to ask the department to start analyzing community by community by community. You know, our job is to project the overall revenues for this government. To provide you with as accurate picture as we can. If it is available, I will provide it to my colleague. Yes.
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The Chair Vince Steen
Thank you, Mr. Todd. Total operations and maintenance, $701,000. Agreed? Thank you. Total expenditures, $701,000. Agreed. Thank you. Page 311, Bureau of Statistics, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $556,000. Agreed? Thank you. Total expenditures, $556,000. Agreed? Thank you. Page 3-12, information items, active positions. No comments. Questions? Agreed. Information item, page 3-13, Liquor Commission Revolving Fund. Agreed. Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Has the government looked at the possibility of this? Has it come up in committee in regard to putting some of these revenues that we do get through Liquor Revolving Fund back into the social envelope, since they have had such a major cut to all the social programs, especially alcohol and drug programming in the north. Finding a mechanism, since we have something like a $25 million revolving fund. Is there any way the department has looked at the possibility of looking at some of these revenues going into the treatment side of alcohol in regards to the alcohol and drug programs, since that is one area that seemed to be really taking a hit? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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