Debates of Feb. 27th, 1997

This is page numbers 919 - 954 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Supporting Diverse Conditions In Communities
Best Wishes To Crisis Intervention Workers
Official Opening Of Arviat Business Training Centre
Affirmative Action Policy
Legal Training In The Northwest Territories
People's Contribution Towards Deficit Reduction
Support For Small Business
Solutions Desired From Plan 2000
Acknowledging Community Diversity Through Government Policies
Amending Affirmative Action Policy
Rationale Of Designating Communities By Level
Community Empowerment Negotiations With Aklavik
Rewarding NWT Residents For Sacrifices Made
Canadian Federation Of Business' Assessment Of GNWT Budget
Infrastructure Requirements For Nunavut
Inuktitut School Curriculums
Incremental Infrastructure Costs Prior To Division
Formula Funding Negotiations
Practise Of Awarding Housing Contracts
Practise Of Awarding Housing Contracts
Committee Report 7-13(4): Standing Committee On Infrastructure's Review Of Bill 7, Municipal Statutes Amending Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Recommendation To Provide NWT Development Corporation Subsidiaries' Annual Financial Statements To The Resource Management Committee
Recommendation To Reinstate Funding For Local Wildlife Committees To Levels Equivalent To The 1996/97 Fiscal Year
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. It is supposed to be part of the management plan. It can be part of the conditions set out in the management plan. Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Does this mean that some management plans might not include the planting of the trees and seeds by some forest harvesters?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. Depending on the method of harvest and the conditions under which timber is harvested, I would say normally it would be included. For instance, if there are fairly narrow strips of timber being harvested in a certain area, then it may not be necessary to do reseeding. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. Is this the way it is done in the southern provinces such as BC?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. In British Columbia and other places, they generally follow the same approach. At least, that is what they say they do. Clear cutting is not something that we encourage. Everybody is looking at good, sound management plans that depend on the type of terrain and the type of timber being harvested. Very often reseeding is a condition for the timber permits and sometimes they are not. It just depends on the terrain and the type of conditions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Final supplementary, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Chair. The Minister referred to reseeding. Does this mean they would plant seeds or do they plant little trees, seedlings?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. In Tulita, a couple of years ago, most of the timber around the community burnt and was scorched. It included our landmark at Bear Rock. We worked with the community on a plan to bring seedlings into the community and have them plant these in certain priority areas, namely around the immediate vicinity of the community. Sometimes, if you leave it, it takes years and years before anything substantial comes back. If you

want, seedlings are the answer. If you want to keep spruce coming back or there is a large growth of poplar or birch, then you often have to go to seedlings. Even at that, sometimes the birch and the poplar push the spruce out of the area. That is the type of thing I meant when I say it just depends on the conditions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Next, I have Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to get some information on the fire centre in Fort Smith, both at the centre and the headquarters. How many employees are employed there on a permanent basis?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

We will look for that information and provide it to the Member. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Madam Chair, what I am interested in knowing and the reason I wanted the number of individuals is, do these people all work on the fire suppression program or do they have other duties and responsibilities beyond the fire suppression program?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Madam Chair. We will try to provide a breakdown for the Member. We have moved towards integrating forest management with fire fighting at the regional level. It may be difficult. We can make an attempt to define who the people are, who are solely dedicated to fighting fires located in the fire control centre in Fort Smith. We will see if we can do that. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Chair. On the forest management side, would the Minister know how many people are employed on that end?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ootes. Mr. Kakfwi.