Mr. Chairman, do we have a quorum in the Chamber?
Debates of Feb. 6th, 1997
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Krutko, do you want me to ring the bell? (Interjection) There is no quorum, so I will ring the bell.
Thank you. The chair recognizes a quorum. We are on page 2-34, details of grants and contributions. Total contributions is $7,710,000. Agreed?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Total grants and contributions, $7,710,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Next page, we have an information item on active positions. Any questions? Move on to the next page. Schedule of lease budget requirements on page 2-36. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, for 1997/98, we have $9,170,000 shown as expenditures for residential leases. I would like to ask the Minister how many units does this figure represent?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Approximately 550 units, I think.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What percentage of these 550 are occupied on a full-time basis?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Well, of course, that is a tough one to answer, Mr. Chairman, because leases expire, people move in and out all the time. I know my colleague has asked me that before. I really could not give him that answer today, what the total occupancy would be on those leases. But we are doing a bit of an evaluation on that right now, because as I said in the House earlier, where we are obligated fiscally and the houses are empty and they are no longer required, we want to use them for social housing. As soon as I get that information, I will provide it to the Member.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Are there any O and M costs associated with these leases?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Todd.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, some of these leases are dry leases, some of these leases are wet leases. So yes, there are fuel costs, power costs; there are different conditions attached to different leases. So, yes.
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The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does the Minister have an idea of what these estimated costs are?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
Yes, Mr. Voytilla tells me the overall costs for dealing with housing, period, when we pay our property managers, the Housing Corporation, et cetera is around $16 million in total, in that range, for 1997-98, and we feel it will be somewhere around $2 to 3 million on the O and M side. Again, I can get that for the Member, because we are going to have to do that when we work with my colleague, Mr.
Arlooktoo, on this when arrangement we want to make on social housing.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. On the schedule of lease budget requirements. Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, did the Minister say $33 million associated with the 550 leased units?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Minister.
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John Todd Keewatin Central
No, Mr. Chairman. My apologies. It was $2 to 3 million.