This is page numbers 1213 - 1239 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was going.

Supplementary To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Ng.

Further Return To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first we have to find out the rationale, as I indicated, on why there would have been some change in the delivery of this program. If we feel that they are not valid then at that point, we will have to address the situation and try to remedy the problem. So I think there are assurances there for community involvement and I respect that if it is a decision made that is totally unacceptable to the communities then the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board would be compelled to try to justify that decision and try to make any changes, even reinstatement of the program if it was felt that it was required and one of the priorities of the communities, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the evaluation and the process and the time you are going to need to look at this, I would like to ask the Minister how soon can he get back to myself and the communities that have been affected by these cuts to the mental health workers being let go? I would like to ask the Minister, can he get back to me as soon as possible and also inform the communities that have been cut on what his decision is or what his findings are? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ng.

Further Return To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I can make the commitment to the honourable Member that once I have the information I will sit down with them and discuss it with them and I can make the commitment that I will speak to the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board and have them arrange for consultations or discussions with the community leaders on these program changes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 501-13(4): Mental Health Workers Position Reductions
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

(Translation) Thank you. The Member for Baffin Central, Mr. Enuaraq. (Translation ends)

Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, colleagues. My question will be directed to the Honourable Mr. Todd. In regards to government staff housing sales, what is the status on the sale of government staff housing to date? Thank you. (Translation ends)

Return To Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, I think a general comment will be that we are very pleased with the status of the sale of staff housing. As a matter of fact, it partially enabled us to move forward on that Employment Strategy Initiative that I announced earlier this week. It would also be fair to say that there are still some minor glitches out there in some of the communities and we are working closely with each individual situation in an effort to once and for all get out of what we call staff-owned housing, although I do want to assure my colleagues that the government policy is still to continue with the leasing of housing units. But certainly from an ownership perspective, it has gone very well and I would like to publicly thank our employees and those developers who have purchased the units, aiding us with our deficit elimination strategy. Thank you.

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Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

(Translation) Thank you. Do you have a supplementary to your question, Mr. Enuaraq? (Translation ends)

Supplementary To Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for the clarification on the staff housing. In addition, in Clyde River Apitak Development Corporation wanted to buy some staff houses to rent them. Has that been settled yet? Thank you. (Translation ends)

Further Return To Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know this issue and certainly everybody knows my position in this House. I am a strong advocate of aboriginal constituency being involved in the private sector and this is an opportunity for that particular development group which is homegrown in Clyde River to own the properties. The actual status of whether they have actually got them now or do not, I do not have that information in my hands but certainly the desire of the government is that given they are locally homegrown that they would purchase the units and we would assist them in doing that. At the same time we need to ensure that we protect our tenants, that the rents are affordable at the end of the day and we are attempting to do that at the same time. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 502-13(4): Sale Of Staff Housing
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Thank you. Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger. Thank you.

Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Finance to follow up on discussions in this House yesterday regarding pay equity and the comment he made about being open to exploring negotiated alternatives outside the legal process to possibly resolving this long outstanding issue. My question to the Minister is, is he prepared to be proactive and initiate that kind of contact that he indicated he is willing to explore in the search for an affordable and quick resolution to this? Thank you.

Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well, as they say in the music business, Mr. Speaker, it takes two to tango. Certainly, I think I indicated yesterday that myself as the Finance Minister and my department feel that this could be, as my colleague indicated, a long drawn out, costly, protracted exercise if it gets too far along and, at the end of the day, where are we? However, at the same time I also said that given my understanding the previous governments were close to an arrangement and for whatever reason, it did not happen. At the time, it is my understanding that it was fiscally affordable. But if there is an expectation out there that we simply cannot afford it then you end up doing the kinds of things that we are doing. I would suggest to my colleague, I publicly said yesterday, that we are prepared to move forward. Really it is up to the other parties to come to the table if they are interested but they have to come to the table with a clear understanding of affordability.

You said earlier that if it ends up where there is a huge fiscal cost attached to this for a variety of reasons, let me assure you, it will mean less jobs, not more jobs, it will mean less services, not more services because our fiscal condition of this government, even though we have contained the spending, is still strained to the limit and there is no big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow as we move towards 1999. We think we are being fiscally responsible, the other parties have to be the same. So the short of it is, yes but we have to wait for the other parties to see if they are interested.

Return To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I agree that the Minister has a made a public signal in this House. My concern is that it not just die on the floor here. Would the Minister consider in fact reiterating that commitment he has made here on paper just so it is very clear that you are serious and it is just not a public statement in this House, and leave the door open for them. Then you can stand up and say yes, I in fact have not only made a verbal offer but I followed it up by clarifying my comments directly in writing to the Executive.

Supplementary To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

Further Return To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well they have got their scribe in the House who is, I am sure, making copious notes as it relates to my response to your question and I am on video. I mean the bottom line is we are prepared to make the overture but I want to stress again, as it relates to affordability. I mean if they do not come to the table with affordability, what do you want me to do, lay off another 1,000 people? I do not think that is an acceptable issue right out there. Do you want me to reduce more services? I do not think that is acceptable out there. So what I am saying is, we are ready to come to the table. If the other parties are with an open mind about affordability, I am sure we can come to a reasonable conclusion. And it if comes with an open mind, with affordability in mind, we can come to a quick resolution. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Second supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know the Minister of Finance is indeed a humble and modest individual but I do not think he should downplay the effect his signature has on a letter that would formalize in writing that yes, we are serious here, we are trying to open the door and here i

t is. So I would ask the Minister to consider that and, of course, I would ask that if that kind of creative positive strategy is available for pay equity that it also be considered for the possible resolution of the outstanding issue of settlement allowances. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to be very clear, specifically my comments relate to pay equity, they do not relate to the other issue. I would suggest to you that I can draft a letter saying to the UNW President, Ms. Jackie Simpson, "are you prepared to come to the table?" I understand it will be entering into new negotiations fairly soon, probably late August or the fall, and I would hope that would be one part of the negotiations. Now I cannot preempt any discussions on that but I will certainly discuss the matter with my deputy, Mr. Voytilla and I am prepared to take some initiative here but it has to be conditional. Again, I emphasize to everybody, we spent 18 months of pure agony and not only in this House but the public at large. If it is affordable and it is equitable, I am prepared to come to the table. If it is unrealistic and it is pie in the sky, I am simply not. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 503-13(4): Pay Equity Dispute Resolution
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Second supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger.