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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Madam Chairperson, the question to the Minister would be that since he takes responsibility for having produced this document, if it is not appropriate for me to ask questions in this particular activity summary, then could he indicate in this document where I might be able to ask these questions?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Maybe it would be appropriate if you asked the questions and then we could determine by the questions if Mr. Todd could respond or whether he is not the appropriate person to ask. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, yesterday the Minister did respond to questions

in regard to the business incentive policy. So I presume it is appropriate for him to respond again today.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I need to get clarification here. Are we not dealing with the FMBS budget? Are we not on the final line of the budget? Should we not deal with that? If there is a question of policy, and this is a question, I am not trying to evade the question, could that not be asked during question period or could it not be asked when other Ministers' budgets come up. I think I need to get some clarity here because this is kind of a new angle, or a new switch, which is not unusual. If there is just some way I can get some clarity.

I thought we were dealing with the budget. I preferably want to answer questions in question period with respect to major policies or where it occurs within my responsibilities. However, I would like us to continue to conclude if you want the budget, my budget. I think that is what I am sitting at this witness table for. Now I will take direction from the staff, but that is what I understand.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. In response to Mr. Steen's question, the Premier chairs Cabinet and has the overall responsibility for policy, but the actual responsibility for the business incentive policy lies with Mr. Kakfwi and the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development if that was what you wanted to raise questions on, Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Well then I would have to revert back to my original question. Since the Minister produced this document, this document governs all the spending of this government and I do not have opportunity to question him in question period because this document is in committee of the whole, therefore you cannot question him in question period. My question is, where in this document would I be able to question the government on their policies?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Steen, just for clarification then, the Clerks have advised me that the budget document, the main estimates document, is the only document that can be tabled in committee of the whole and have questions asked about it in the House at the same time. There is no conflict there. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, can the Minister indicate in this budget, this is his document, can he indicate in his budget now where under Executive offices, and I believe we are under Executive offices and Financial Management Board Secretariat is part of the Executive, therefore, where under the Executive can I question the government on their policies?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen, the appropriate place to question policies of the government would have been on page 2-12 under Cabinet Secretariat. I am sure with the concurrence of the committee, we could return to that page if Mr. Steen would like to ask a question, and Mr. Morin would have to return to the table. Mr. Steen.

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Vince Steen

Vince Steen Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. So therefore, I would have to request permission from this committee to return to activity 2-12. I am not prepared to do that at this time. That is all I wanted to know. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Steen. We are on Financial Management Board Secretariat, program summary. Total operations and maintenance, $42.460 million. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In regard to the whole area of accountability of this department which oversees all the expenditures of this government in regard to the area of the Deficit Elimination Act which was put in place with regard to the Financial Administration Act where there has been changes to it to different percentages on expenditures, can the Minister state how the act is going to be implemented to ensure that accountability is there in regard to these expenditures?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I am really sorry Madam Chairperson, I am trying very hard to answer the questions that have been asked by the previous Member and this one. I simply am at a loss to understand what the question is. I wonder if he can try and give me some more clarity so I can be clear in my response?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Krutko, do you think you could rephrase the question for the Minister please? Thank you.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In regard to the initiatives of this government in regard to the Financial Administration Act that is presently in place, to ensure that there is accountability and that there is clarity in regard to how this government operates and the people are accountable for the way they spend money and in regard to this department being the control mechanism that oversees the Financial Administration Act; what assurances do we have that with these new initiatives in this budget that those will be taken care of through this department?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. I believe you are referring to the issue of transparency with regard to the P3 initiative? Yes, thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

All policies, fiscal policies of the government have to meet the Financial Administration Act, Madam Chairperson. We would put a system in place to ensure that is going to happen. The government's fiscal policy is governed, if you want, under the rules and regulations of the Financial Administration Act.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In regard to some of these initiatives, they call for certain amendments to the Financial Administration Act to include these initiatives in the plans of this government through those changes. Will that have an affect on the ability of the Financial Management Board to carry out its responsibilities to ensure that has been done, in regard to these new initiatives.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Madam Chairperson, this government, how it spends its money and the way it is governed is under the Financial Administration Act. I do not know how else to answer the question for my colleague. I am trying the best I can.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Todd. Mr. Krutko was referring to proposed amendments to the Financial Administration Act to accommodate this initiative, the new initiatives in this budget. I do not know how to ask the question, but I think he is referring to the proposed amendments to the FAA. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

There is no suggestion of any more changes to the Financial Administration Act to accommodate the initiatives that we have here within the budget at this time, Madam Chairperson. Sorry.