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Committee Motion 7-13(6): Motion To Create Six Electoral Districts For The City Of Yellowknife
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. All those opposed, please stand.

Committee Motion 7-13(6): Motion To Create Six Electoral Districts For The City Of Yellowknife
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Deputy Clerk Mr. Schauerte

Mr. Antoine, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Krutko, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Roland, Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Morin.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. All those abstaining, please stand.

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Deputy Clerk Mr. Schauerte

Mr. Ng, Mr. Picco and Mr. O'Brien.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I will read the recorded vote. For, six. Against, seven. Abstentions, three. The motion is defeated, therefore, I recognize Mr. Dent.

Committee Motion 8-13(6): Motion To Create Five Electoral Districts For The City Of Yellowknife
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

November 11th, 1998

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Recognizing that that motion has failed, I would like to move that the current electoral districts of Yellowknife North, Yellowknife Centre, Yellowknife Frame Lake and Yellowknife South be redrawn to create five electoral districts as outlined on the appendixed map.

Further, that the electoral districts be named Range Lake, Kam Lake, Frame Lake, Yellowknife Centre and Weledeh.

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The Chair John Ningark

The motion is being distributed to Members of the committee. I believe the honourable colleagues have a copy of the motion. The motion is in order. Mr. Dent, to the motion.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I regret that we have to come forward with this motion, but I think recognizing that the previous motion failed, it is still essential that we address the overall size of the constituencies in Yellowknife. I do not believe that redrawing them into four constituencies will adequately serve the residents in attaining relative parity in voting power. In fact, I doubt that five does either, but I must say that it will at least make some move to address the inequity and I would hope that Members will agree to support this motion. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Dent. To the motion. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will not go into all the reasons why we need more representation for the Yellowknife area as that has been very well spoken to prior to this, but I wanted to indicate similarly to Mr. Dent that, while I am disappointed that the Members here did not agree that the Yellowknife area needed two additional seats, I too feel that even one more seat would make the distribution of the population in Yellowknife and the Yellowknife area a lot more equitable. While they would still be considerably larger than the vast majority of the rest of the constituencies in the western Arctic, that this is much more desirable than receiving those seats. For that reason, I would ask the Members here to vote in favour of this motion. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is defeated. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I would like to move a motion, please. Copies are available, I think from the Clerks.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Please proceed with your motion.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that the current electoral districts of Yellowknife North, Yellowknife Centre, Yellowknife Frame Lake and Yellowknife South be redrawn to create four electoral districts as outlined on the appendixed map. Further, that the electoral districts be named Range Lake, Kam Lake, Yellowknife Centre and Weledeh.

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The Chair John Ningark

Your motion is in order. The written form of the motion is being distributed, so we will pause momentarily. The motion is in order. I would like to recognize the mover of the motion, Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to indicate that this will make the four electoral districts in Yellowknife of a comparable size. It will get away from one riding of 7,000 and one of just 2,000. It is a stop-gap measure, I recognize that, but I think given all the circumstances I can definitely live with that. I would also ask for a recorded vote.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Your request for recorded vote is noted. I have Mr. Kakfwi to the motion.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would hope that if this Legislature ever wanted to redraw the boundaries of my constituency, they would at least give me the courtesy of asking what I thought of it in the first place.

--Applause

I find it a bit offensive that somebody outside of these constituencies would take the prerogative to move a motion like this. I find it a bit offensive, I would say, to entertain this motion. I thought the sentiment being expressed by all speakers against any type of change was exactly that. Why is this motion being placed in front of us at this time? I would say it is not in keeping with the sentiments expressed by the speakers that were against any type of additional seats for Yellowknife this afternoon. I will not be in support, at all, of this motion. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. To the motion, Mr. Morin.

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Don Morin Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will repeat again, in case some Members have a problem in hearing, that earlier today I had said, when I was speaking to the motion, I would support the redrafting of Yellowknife's constituency boundaries to better reflect an even number throughout the city, exactly what the Member from Thebacha had said. That seems to be a concern for Yellowknife, we have heard it before, so we will assist them in equalizing those seats and making the numbers more equal within the city of Yellowknife. I will be supporting this motion. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Morin. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Frankly, I must echo Mr. Kakfwi's sentiments. I am rather insulted by this move by people from outside of the Yellowknife constituencies to tell us how we are to reconstitute our four constituencies here in Yellowknife. For one thing, this document does not indicate how the population will be redistributed. We do not know what we are looking at, we do not know what we are voting on. Neither does anybody here. I would expect that if things were to remain the same, then the Members, at least, would have the common decency to let the four Yellowknife MLAs decide how the Yellowknife constituencies would be redistributed. I cannot vote in favour of this motion. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this is the first time I have seen this map which purports to divide Yellowknife into four different constituencies.

I cannot support this. I would need some time to examine the census maps and the population. I believe that this motion is not timely right now. The Yellowknife Members should have an opportunity to consult with their constituents and to take a look at the census maps and ourselves come back with a plan for redistributing, if there is to be one. I would ask Members to respect our constituents and vote in opposition to this motion, please. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Dent. I have Mr. Krutko, Mr. Ootes, and Mrs. Groenewegen. Mr. Krutko.