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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, I understand that the Northwest Territories and Yellowknife, in particular, went through a very sad time in its history a few years ago with the situation we had at Giant Mine. My question to the Minister is, is he aware of any ongoing RCMP investigation into any of the happenings of Giant Mine through that particular troubled time. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. No, we are not aware of any RCMP investigations into that situation. That is not to say that there is no investigation. We are not aware of one.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Do I assume from that then, to the Minister's knowledge, as he did mention in a briefing this morning with the RCMP that they usually make the Minister aware of any activities that are happening as far as investigations go? Would I assume then, from that, there are no investigations arising out of that particular time in our history? Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. That is a difficult question to answer. One, I do not know whether or not there is an investigation. Two, if I did know, I would likely say that I know something but it would be very difficult for me to say it out here in the public forum and make any particular remarks about any police investigation.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I have some questions under this activity with regard to the statutes revision process that is now underway. Could the Minister indicate how that statutes revision process is going and the type of work being done? If it is like Bill 10, which we did this morning, it is more of a housekeeping situation. I am also concerned about the issue of just mirroring legislation that may be quite old and possibly out of date, that has irrelevant or no longer appropriate sections because of its age. Could the Minister comment on that?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The statutes revision project is ongoing. I understand that progress is being made. Basically what you have with the statutes revision project is ensuring both territories, the Nunavut Territory and the Western Territory, have statutes or laws governing it so that the two new governments, when they start up, will have a basis for its legislation. The statutes revision project also deals with translation of the statutes to French, and in the case of the Nunavut side, also into Inuktitut. In addition, the statutes revision commissioner through the project deals with things like renumbering legislation where required, removing provisions that no longer have any effect, replacing obsolete or archaic terms and reorganizing statutes in general. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Would it be safe to say - I do not want to put words into the Minister's mouth by making an assumption that the Minister can confirm or not - that good, bad or indifferent, both new territories are going to inherit the current legislation? It will be up to the two new Legislatures, once they are elected, to, in fact, sort through, update and modernize legislation? That the changes being made now are more transitional in nature? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I understand that all jurisdictions from time to time need to have a statutes revision project because statutes or laws require updating, correcting, renumbering, et cetera, all the time. The NWT statutes or laws have been updated relatively recently. If you compare to what has been done or not done in other jurisdictions, other parts of Canada, this statute revision project will do that much more in updating our laws. In that sense, it is a good thing. It will enable the two territories to start off with relatively modern or good legislation bases. What it will not do is fix all the ills or all the inconsistencies or changes needed in the Legislation. It is not a cure all. Relative to other

jurisdictions in other parts of Canada, the Western NWT and the Nunavut government will start off in relatively good shape.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Would the Minister have any idea, across the governments with all the legislation we have, how much legislation do we have that is 20-years old or older?

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. We do not have that information in front of us. We could find out but as I said, the statute revision or updating laws to make them current is something that has been ongoing. If you will recall, we are creating a new Education Act and there was, and is, work being done to the Wildlife Act. We will soon have the Family Law Act that will modernize it and make it current. There is old legislation that has been there for a very long time. There are some extreme examples that I know of. For example, we have a Motion Picture Act, that I have not seen, but I have been told about, which requires a bucket of sand to always be close to the projector because it was written before the invention of the fire extinguisher. Those are the types of things that need to be fixed. They are relatively off to the side. The main body of the statutes will be in good standing soon.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I do not need the list of legislation 20 years old or greater. I am just concerned about the law. I want to make it clear, I suppose, this is a process to get us to division, and the substantive work that will have to be done by the various governments and departments. I also have a concern with this process in terms of workload. Initially, my recollection when it came through our committee was, it was a situation that could easily be done in-house part-time. My understanding now, and further re-enforced by discussions of how time consuming it is even to do a miscellaneous statutes revision, is that this process has grown in nature and demands, to the extent that I am concerned about the workload and what is not getting done because we have decided to do it in-house and all the people are tied up doing this when they should be doing other stuff related to the 1,001 other things that Justice has to do in regard to division. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I am told the work that is required to be done by the cut-off date will be done. How that compares to what was expected to be done in the past or sometime ago, I do not know. I could not make that comparison. I am assured that the required revisions will be done. The required translations will be done. Also on the other point of making sure you start off with a good statute base, it is important to ensure future Legislative Assemblies of both territories be the ones that change or improve the legislation and not bureaucrats and lawyers.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Twenty seconds to go, Mr. Miltenberger.