Agreed.
Debates of Feb. 19th, 1998
Topics
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Some Hon. Members
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In the issue of law enforcement, we know that it is cost shared with the federal government. This morning, in the briefing we had with the RCMP, the chief superintendent mentioned the GNWT portion was $26 million. It is different according to what is before us, $28.015 million. Is there some misinformation there or is there funding that goes to other areas? Thank you.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I believe the superintendent this morning was giving a ball park figure. The police services agreement is $27.6 million. There is also, in addition, a First Nations policing component for $342,000 which totals what you have in the main estimates of $28.015 million.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Could the Minister inform us with all the talk on the federal funding situation and with the forced-growth factor, are there any negotiations between our government and the federal government that increase the limits we receive from the federal government? Will there be any soon? This is something we need to start putting some focus on. Thank you.
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Yes, thank you, Madam Chairperson. This is certainly something that has crossed our mind. The 70 to 30 ratio is the same all across the country, I understand. I do not believe there are any plans or possibilities of going into negotiations to change the ratio. There are no formal talks going on right now to increase the federal share. What could happen is if the GNWT found some extra money and decided to put it in the policing agreement, we would then have to go to the federal government to increase their share to match ours proportionally. That is not going on right now.
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Floyd Roland Inuvik
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Is this the same ratio used in the Aboriginal Policing Program?
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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. No, the First Nations Policing Program has a different ratio, 48 percent is the portion we pay compared to the 52 percent for the federal government.
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The Chair Jane Groenewegen
Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. Operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $28.015 million. I have Mr. Steen.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, am I to understand the money to train community constables is in the $28 million?
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Sanders
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. It does not show up in here because we signed an agreement with the Government of Canada for funding for that, subsequent to when these were prepared. We are receiving funding from the federal government. It is a complicated one because they are actually matching funding that MACA is providing when they give communities money for their law enforcement component. Over a 24-month period, that started April 1, 1997, there will be a total amount, total cost of $750,000. Part of that is MACA funding. The amount coming from the federal government to the GNWT during that time will be $390,000, roughly half each year, just under $200,000 each year, but that is not showing up in the $28 million you are seeing.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. How does that break down per community? The community of Sachs Harbour, for instance, they said they signed an MOU. How much would they receive under that MOU?
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Sanders
Thank you, Madam Chairperson. We could provide a detailed breakdown but just generally I can say a portion of it goes for the RCMP training that takes place in Regina. Not the actual training because the RCMP contribute that, but the cost of getting the people down there and others from the RCMP that go down to be with them, their cost of travel and accommodation and so on. There is some money set aside, for example, later in March there is going to be a workshop of people who have had that training coming in for further training in Yellowknife and meetings together on it. Once that training money comes out of it, the money is divided up by community and depending upon the size of the community and so on quite a few of the communities are at the
level of $3,000. There might be ones getting more. It depends on their level of commitment as well.
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Vince Steen Nunakput
Under the MOU, if the community accepts the training program and the funding, and the person they send down is successful in his police training, when he comes back, is he required to enforce the criminal code?
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Sanders
They do work with the RCMP when they come back. Assuming the RCMP is satisfied with their success in the training program, and so on, then they would be sworn in as a peace officer once the MOU is signed in that community. What each one is required to do is work out individually between that person, the community and that RCMP detachment, based on the community expectations, what the person feels able and willing to do and what the detachment members feel are appropriate to have them do in the circumstances. They do work under the supervision of the RCMP detachment and they take responsibility for the assignments they are given.