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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Christensen.

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Christensen

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The cost of that is borne by the agency or individuals building the project in question.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Christensen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. The whole role of the question I am asking is because for a number of years, looking at the statistics, Aklavik has been underfunded, especially where it comes to funds to develop roads. The

things I am talking about are if they had the monies to basically do the right improvements to the drainage system and upgrading their wharf around the edges regarding the corrosion around the rivers. Right now, the community has been trying to get the gravel stock piled in the community. In case of an emergency they know that if they have the gravel on site and if they had to move materials to protect a certain facility, it is there in the community. Right now, they do not have that. There is no money in the budget. There has not been any money for years. One of the big problems Aklavik is having is that they do not have the money for putting pads down to put pilings on for the local person to be attracted to get these housing units. You have to be in a pretty high wage bracket because you have to pay these costs. If planning was done right and the resources were there in the community to ensure that there is some sort of a protected measure in place, they know the water in the community will not be as drastic if they had some sort of a plan or a protected measure to ensure that there will be adequate run off. If there was a culvert where the flow could have went through versus blocking off the water where it will back up into the community, everybody then, is affected.

These plans were not done years ago in regard to the planning, not having the adequate resources when a lot of these facilities were constructed. Basically, you are stuck with trying to look at alternative measures to compile the emergency versus being proactive and making sure that it is built into the community and having the resources there to carry out these different functions of making sure your drainage system is right. You have enough distance between the low water level versus the high rate. You are talking 300 feet in some cases which is how fast the water will rise at any one time. You have to take that into consideration. The cost to this government in the long term of losing the water facility or the school or even the airport facility is a cost not only to the people, but to this government who have to pick up that cost. I am saying that knowingly, these incidents do happen and we should be finding ways of protecting the infrastructure in the communities for the government itself. Those assets belong to this government which we are paying for. To replace those assets, it is going to be a lot more than what is there right now.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Ms. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I would like to thank the Member for all the information he is giving us. He knows his communities very well. If this is a priority of their hamlet, they can forward all the information to us and we can assess the problem. Up to now, we have not had an urgency from the hamlet written to us in this regard. I would like to thank the Member for all the information he is giving us. It is very useful to my department. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Thompson. Next on the list, I have Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. In relation to emergency services, I was reading the literature here that is part of the budget. I would like the Minister to clarify for me the role or the functions related to the fire marshal in his office and all these other functions related to drowning, boating accidents, search and rescue and all that type of activity. Are these newly added on as a result of the disbanding of Safety and Public Services? Were there resources, if that was the case, that came along with that? I noticed, looking at your PY complement, that you only have 159 staff and you have a very heavy mandate in the area of community development in other critical areas. Could the Minister elaborate whether these are new duties, do they have the resources? The underlying concern being, Madam Chairperson, that are we stretching what is supposed to be the lead department in the regions, even though they only have 159 staff, too thin on the ground because they are doing too many duties and they will not have the horses to do the work? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Ms. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you. Madam Chairperson, I would like to thank the Member for his observation. We have quite a lot of responsibilities as the Members may know now. We have gained a lot more responsibilities than before. I will ask my deputy minister to elaborate more on that, how these functions have affected the department and also the staff because we do have a lot more responsibilities added on to MACA with the small personnel we have. Thank you.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Thompson. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, when the basic functions were transferred to MACA, that would be a year ago last November that they came over, they did come over with some resources for budgets for salaries and wages for the staff and the positions that were transferred to us, as well as some operations and maintenance dollars that came with the functions. I think it is fair to say that in this area, there is much more that could be done if we had more resources to work with and I think that the staff in this area do work very hard to try to cover off a number of difficult program areas in the communities. It is a challenge, when there is only one assistant fire marshal in each region to try to cover off a whole range of related functions. I think we are fortunate that we do have some very well qualified and dedicated staff who do work very hard to try to meet all the commitments. Could we do more, with more resources? Absolutely. Are we stretched thin? We are stretched thin. Are we meeting the essentials of the mandate that we currently have? Yes, but it certainly is a stretch. The staff are working very hard in this area to cover off the basics. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Ballantyne. I have Mr. Ningark.

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John Ningark Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Madam Chairperson, on the emergency services, the third paragraph talks about public safety, fire safety inspections, enforcement, safety regulations and one area that we have often overlooked, public education program. Not all members of the household in any given home in my area know how to operate a hand operated fire extinguisher. For instance, a unilingual person is not able to read in English and when a fire extinguisher is provided, it is provided with the instruction on that fire extinguisher. Having the knowledge of how to operate a small fire extinguisher that is provided in the public unit or in the private home is very important, especially when that person, knowing how to operate it, has as the ability to extinguish a fire before it becomes a problem. I know many years ago, in my home, local volunteers used to visit homes. I do not see that anymore. Is the fire marshal's office providing a regular update training for people who are living in homes, having the ability to operate a fire extinguisher. It may be simple, but there are cases whereby individuals in the household are not able to operate a fire extinguisher. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Ningark. Ms. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. That is a very good suggestion. I am also aware that unilingual members in our communities do not know how to operate these fire extinguishers and maybe not only those individuals, but other people in the communities. I will have the fire marshal assess this and see what we can do to educate the public in that area. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Thompson. Mr. Henry.

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Henry

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Again, with emergency services, can the Minister maybe advise us if the Disaster Assistance Program has funds there or requirements for financial assistance. How is that obtained in the event of disasters?

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The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Ms. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I will refer that question to my deputy minister.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you. Ms. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. I do not have the actual policy here with me, but I can indicate that there is a disaster assistance policy in place and it is intended to provide financial assistance to help residents or small businesses or community governments recover from the effects of a disaster. The assistance does not cover full compensation for damages or losses and it does not replace coverage that might be available through insurance or other programs. Generally, what happens if there is a disaster, is that the Minister would strike a disaster assistance committee to review the situation and to bring back a recommendation for disaster assistance in accordance with the policy. The Minister would then forward that recommendation to Cabinet for review and approval. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Ms. Ballantyne. Mr. Henry.

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Henry

Thank you, Madam Chairperson. Could the Minister advise if there is a fund set up for this purpose or is it on as required basis? Is it handled through special warrants? Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

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The Chair

The Chair Jane Groenewegen

Thank you, Mr. Henry. Ms. Ballantyne.