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Motion 14-13(5): Coordination Of Inter-jurisdictional And Inter-departmental Initiatives
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in regard to the motion I believe there is a lot of inter-jurisdictional work that has to go on, especially when it comes to aboriginal people who are related to other aboriginal people living in Alaska, the Yukon, Greenland, northern Quebec or Labrador. There is always that link to aboriginal groups regardless if it is the Cree in the southern territory, northern Alberta or Manitoba. There has to be more efforts made by this government to entice the economic opportunities of aboriginal groups and governments, to start pulling their policies together to recognize there is an economic opportunity here for aboriginal groups to form joint ventures and start dealing with environmental issues such as the Porcupine Caribou or dealing with the seal hunt in eastern Canada or hydro development.

We have to start formulating our policies so they are simpler and easier to understand. Right now you go from one department to another to try to find information on who is responsible for aboriginal people when you talk about international or inter-jurisdictional issues. Through this motion, I am hoping that the different departments and agencies within the government can sit down and identify all these different policies and responsibilities and can consolidate them into one policy that can oversee everything. With that, I seek the support of my colleagues on this motion. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, while I can appreciate the intent of the motion, I see it as a very complex sweeping motion. We have had no real time to look at or consult with the partners referred to in the motion. I do not know what the impact would be on all the current processes and negotiations currently underway. I do not know what type of board the motion refers to and of course the issue of potential cost. Given those factors, but the main one is the shortage of time and lack of opportunity to discuss this and look at the impact and implications, I cannot support this motion. Thank you Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, no doubt the intent of this motion is very well meant, but I have difficulty like Mr. Miltenberger, in grasping the impact of this motion, without having a lot more time to digest it, look into it and to discuss it. I feel it is a very complex and sweeping motion like Mr. Miltenberger has said. That gives me a certain amount of concern. I would like to have, perhaps in the future, the Member

address this again if it does not go forward. At this time I cannot support this particular motion simply because of the dramatic impact it could potentially have and without consulting various organizations and individuals, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the motion. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be supporting this motion. I would have hoped that we had more time to discuss this and perhaps make a few minor changes. However, there is a lot of work that has to be done in this area. There are land claims and other agreements that have been made between various aboriginal governments, between ourselves as the GNWT and the federal government and they do need to be coordinated in some fashion. Hopefully, this motion will wake up various people such as the Cabinet and perhaps the federal government that something has to be done. It may not be exactly as outlined in here, but I am in favour of this motion because I believe that something has to be done and time is not standing still, Mr. Speaker. Just because we are working towards division, does not mean that we cannot work on other things as well. For that reason I am supporting the motion. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will be voting in favour of the motion as presented by Mr. Krutko. Although Mr. Miltenberger is correct, it does seem broad sweeping in a scope. It is only a recommendation being brought forward by this House. In the Infrastructure Committee we had identified on numerous occasions the problem with overlap within different government departments dealing with Aboriginal Affairs. For those reasons, I will be supporting Mr. Krutko and his motion. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the motion. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, my honourable colleagues. It is important. We have a lot of policies and economic programs in this government that are outdated. We have to somehow pull them together, looking at the economic circumstance we find ourselves in and the land claims being settled with division coming up. We have to find ways of looking at these old policies and the way economic programs are run in the territories as to how they fit the uniqueness of the territories and uniqueness of the people it represents for the majority of the people in the territories who are aboriginal people.

There is a real close tie between aboriginal people and the different cultural groups they are part of. For myself, I am a Gwich'in person. The group I represent is originally from Alaska, the Yukon, Northwest Territories. It is the same thing with the Cree in the southern part of the territories. They go into Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan. It is the same thing with the Inuit in the east. There is a connection between Greenland, Labrador and northern Quebec. We have to keep in mind that, when we talk about people, we talk about a group of people, in regard to aboriginal people. Just because they put boundary lines up around us, does not mean we are cut off from the people we represent. It is important we take those boundary lines down and have people working closer together. Hopefully, through this motion, the government can see that and try to foster a relationship between aboriginal people in North America in general and not just restricting us to the Northwest Territories. This is the intention of the motion. With that, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask for a recorded vote.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Member for Mackenzie Delta has asked for a recorded vote. Question has been called. To the motion. All those in favour?

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Krutko, Mr. Rabesca, Mr. Barnabas, Mr. Picco, Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Erasmus and Mr. Steen.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

All those opposed?

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Ningark. All those abstaining? Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Todd, Mr. Dent.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The results of the motion, for: 7, against: 3, abstentions: 4. The motion is carried. Motion 15-13(5). Mr. Picco.

Motion 15-13(5): Reallocation Of Departmental Surpluses
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March 1st, 1998

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you. Relocation of departmental surpluses.

WHEREAS, the 13th Legislative Assembly has identified its main priorities through the public release of the document entitled, "Agenda for Change;"

AND WHEREAS, the Legislative Assembly's Agenda for Change and Vision for the Future speaks of a healthier, better educated and more self-reliant citizenry;

AND WHEREAS, the Agenda for Change affirms that the old and expensive way of doing things must be changed;

AND WHEREAS, the fiscal year-end is quickly approaching and a number of GNWT departments have experienced and might anticipate budget surpluses;

AND WHEREAS, the Minister of Finance has indicated in the House that the Cabinet will reallocate any surpluses according to the priorities established by both Cabinet and the Legislative Assembly;

NOW THEREFORE, I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for the High Arctic, that this House recommends that the Cabinet reallocate any departmental surpluses that may exist after fiscal year-end 1997-98 to the Departments of Education, Culture and Employment and Health and Social Services;

AND FURTHER, that the Standing Committee on Social Programs be consulted and fully involved in discussions regarding the redeployment of surplus funds to educational, health and social service initiatives.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Question has been called. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the reason for the introduction of this motion is indeed the concerns that have been raised many times in this House over the last couple of months concerning problems in health and funding in the Department of Education, especially when we look at teacher/student ratios and concerns with curricula and tests and responses that we heard that there is no more money.

What we are hoping for here in this motion, Mr. Speaker, is that if, indeed, the departments find a surplus, that money in this 1997-98 current fiscal year be reallocated to those departments to help them out with that shortfall in education and social services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Question has been called. To the motion. Mr. Barnabas.

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Levi Barnabas High Arctic

Thank you. Just supporting the motion.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

In regard to this particular motion, once again, I appreciate the intent, but it is somewhat vague and imprecise. I am not sure whether we are talking about the surplus, before or after pay equity. What about our accumulated debt? As the honourable Member from Iqaluit mentioned in the previous motion, it is just a recommendation. So based on that particular approach, Mr. Speaker, I do agree with the intent, that we do have to put more money into education, very clearly. I will be supporting this motion.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to see that in this motion it states that the Standing Committee on Social Programs be consulted and fully involved in discussions. I would hope there is some direction there that it be to specific programs such as the Mammography Program. That way, I feel that I can support the program. I have continually spoken here in the House about the need for us to put some money into job creation programs and I would have liked to have seen that in here, but I will support the motion. However, next year, I would hope that we could reword a motion of this nature to also include job creation as much as health and social services areas. Thank you.