This is page numbers 155 - 185 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was education.

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Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the Member has suggested, that would, in fact, be useful information to demonstrate whether or not our programs are working well. In fact, the Standing Committee on Social Programs suggested we should make more of an effort to track that information. The department has conducted at least one phone survey to try and develop baseline information in that area. The Member asks whether there is a program to assist students finding jobs in their chosen field when they return to the north with their degree or certificate in-hand. The answer is no, there is no specific program like that. We have almost no people in the Northwest Territories with a university degree who are not employed. We have very few people in the Northwest Territories who have college diplomas who are not employed. Finding employment for people who have post-secondary training is not a big problem in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Second supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I dare say that what the Minister says is correct, but my question was specifically to assistance to help them find work within the field of their study. There are numerous university graduates who are working in the north now who have not been successful in putting what they studied to use. Mr. Speaker, my next question is, has the Department of Education ever considered looking into a cooperative employment program between the Government of the Northwest Territories and participating post-secondary institutions, something that would provide a hands-on approach that would enable the students returning

to the north to be introduced into the workforce and more specifically into positions that were directly related to their field of study at a university or college. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have no doubt there are a lot of people in the north who are working in fields that their university degrees are not in. I, for one, am among that group. I do not think we should discount the fact that people choose to follow other paths no matter what their university training is sometimes. We have not done the specific job the Member asks about in terms of trying to initiate a way of getting people involved in their specific field of study. However, the department has been very active at finding ways to get young people to work. We subsidize employers to provide work for young people, we offer specific employment programs for young people, aged 15 to 29, to help employers bring those people into the workforce. We offer assistance for training on the job, we offer assistance for a number of employment initiatives. I would say that we have embarked on a broad range of support activities to help young northerners find jobs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen.

Supplementary To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. For students who have been educated in the north and who do go out for post-secondary education, are they ever consulted on this matter, is there any kind of focus group or interest group that specifically would have had first-hand experience in this, that the government or social programs committee would ever consult on this matter because I do believe that from the number of instances we hear of, there is a tremendous loss to the Northwest Territories of some very skilled people who we have invested a great deal of money in educating. I would like to see this issue brought into a little clearer focus. Are actual graduates, professionals, tradespeople ever consulted by this government as opposed to us always having this conversation amongst ourselves? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in my first response to the series of questions from the Member, the department has surveyed recipients of student financial assistance from five years ago to try and start a baseline of information in this regard. Yes, this information would be useful and, yes, we are making steps to try and collect more of that sort of information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
Question 102-13(6): Employment Of Post-secondary Graduates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Honourable Charles Dent, Minister responsible for the Power Corporation. Recently, I heard reports on the radio regarding potential power increases to communities and I believe most of them are referred to as eastern Arctic. Some of the reports stated examples of Cape Dorset, where power increases could potentially be as high as 50 percent. I realize these decisions were made by the Public Utilities Board, but have to be followed by the Power Corporation. Could the Minister advise this House if he is aware of large potential increases to communities in the Northwest Territories in power rates. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are no wide-scale power rate increases planned. As far as I know, the Power Corporation is not planning a general rate application before a year from now at the earliest. The Member could be referring to a news story about a community where there may be a problem with the power plant. If we are looking at replacing power plants, or upgrading power plants, in any community, then that community would have to bear the costs of whatever upgrade or replacement was necessary. Obviously, though, Mr. Speaker, the recapture of the expenditure of funds would take place over a number of years, because you do not have to pay for all the capital expenses of a business in one year. I cannot say whether or not there are any large increases planned. I would expect that, since I have not heard of any, that there are not and, I believe that, if anything, the corporation would be at an early stage of looking at alternatives to deal with problems that may exist in a community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank the Minister for that information. I think it is reasonably well accepted, Mr. Speaker, that one of the mines in Yellowknife is presently closed down. There is concern about Giant Mine as regards to their power usage, and we do know that the less customers that are paying for power bills, someone has to take up the slack. Could the Minister comment on potential concerns he may have regarding power increases for Yellowknife because of a smaller base paying the bills? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have not heard anything about Giant Mine shutting down, so, I cannot say that I am prepared to answer that question, and with Miramar being on strike what has happened is that the Power Corporation is taking the excess power from Bluefish Hydro and feeding it into the hydro system here which is, in fact, offsetting some diesel usage right now because we have again a situation with low water in the Yellowknife/Rae hydro zone. At this point, though, because of the stabilization fund, there is no plan for an application for a rate increase at this time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Second supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister was correct in assuming that I was talking about the slow down, not the shutdown, of Giant Mine because of gold prices, but certainly the Nerco Mine is not in operation right now and that was what I was referring to. The Minister had also referred to the excess power generated by Bluefish Hydro being fed into the system. Could the Minister comment on the cost of that power, as opposed to power generated at Snare Lakes, which is lower, and maybe we will just leave it at that for now, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

Further Return To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot answer the question. That is more detail than I carry in my head or my briefing book. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would be interested if the Minister did provide that information to the House. I would hate to think we were buying power if we can generate it more cheaply, so I would be interested in that information, the rates supplied by Bluefish as opposed to what we would paying at Snare Lakes. If the Minister would commit to providing that information, I would appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

Further Return To Question 103-13(6): Potential Increases To Power Rates
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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, perhaps the Member did not hear me. I said that the power that is coming from Bluefish is replacing diesel, not hydro from the Snare system, so the avoided costs of producing diesel are significant. I can guarantee that, but I would be happy to provide the specific information that the Member asked about, which is the comparison between the cost of hydro produced within the system and by Bluefish. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.