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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Friday, May 14, 1999, I will move the following motion.

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories make an initial investment of $5 million to provide for special needs assessment and programming in the Northwest Territories;

And further, recommends the government provide additional base funding of $7.7 million dollars annually for special needs assessment and programming on an ongoing basis;

And furthermore, recommends the government introduce a supplementary appropriation at the next sitting of this Legislature to provide for the initial investment of $5 million to deal with this special needs crisis.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I will be seeking unanimous consent to deal with this motion today. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Notices of motion. Mr. Dent.

Motion 22-13(7): Extended Adjournment
Item 14: Notices Of Motion

May 11th, 1999

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Friday, May 14, 1999, I will move the following motion.

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife North, that notwithstanding Rule 4, that when this House adjourns on Thursday, May 13, 1999, it shall be adjourned until Monday, July 26, 1999;

And further, that any time prior to July 26, 1999, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I will seek unanimous consent to deal with my motion today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Motion 22-13(7): Extended Adjournment
Item 14: Notices Of Motion

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Notice of motions. Item 16, motions. Mr. Dent.

Item 16: Motions
Item 16: Motions

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to proceed with my motion today.

Item 16: Motions
Item 16: Motions

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The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake is seeking unanimous consent to deal with his motion today. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Dent, you have unanimous consent.

Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable colleagues. Mr. Speaker,

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife North, that notwithstanding Rule 4, that when this House adjourns on Thursday, May 13, 1999, it shall be adjourned until Monday, July 26, 1999;

AND FURTHER, that any time prior to July 26, 1999, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Dent. The motion is in order. To the motion. Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Motions. Mr. Erasmus.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to proceed with my motion today.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The Member for Yellowknife North is seeking unanimous consent to deal with his motion today. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Erasmus, you have unanimous consent.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

WHEREAS the Education Act of the Northwest Territories requires children to attend school until the age of 16;

AND WHEREAS 37 percent of the population of the Northwest Territories is under the age of 20 and 22 percent of the total population is in school;

AND WHEREAS the Northwest Territories has the highest student teacher ratio in Canada;

AND WHEREAS teachers in the Northwest Territories are facing increased challenges, including students with special needs, multi-grade classes, fewer and inadequate resources, and rising class sizes;

AND WHEREAS it is estimated that nearly one-half of the students in the Northwest Territories require additional support in the classroom and approximately half of those students receive the required support;

AND WHEREAS the number of Northwest Territories students with special needs is unknown;

AND WHEREAS the number of children with special needs and the range of special needs must be identified and assessed before appropriate responses can be initiated;

AND WHEREAS success in school for children with special needs is linked to early diagnosis and assistance;

AND WHEREAS the Standing Committee on Social Programs has recommended, on numerous occasions, that funding be allocated and programming be developed to deal with special needs students with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and Fetal Alcohol Effect;

AND WHEREAS the majority of northerners who spoke to the Minister's Forum on Education agreed that the Inclusive Schooling Policy is valid and desirable but also held the view that funding was so inadequate it rendered the policy unworkable;

AND WHEREAS it is projected that every dollar spent on early childhood developmental programming will result in a savings of $7 in future costs to government later in that child's life;

AND WHEREAS the Minister's Forum on Education recommended that, to ensure the needs of all students are met in an equitable way, the number of Special Needs Assistants, Program Support Teachers and Reading Specialists, as well as other support services should be increased;

NOW THEREFORE, I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River, that this Legislative Assembly recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories make an initial investment of $5 million to provide for special needs assessment and programming in the Northwest Territories;

AND FURTHER, recommends the government provide additional base funding of $7.7 million annually for special needs assessment and programming on an ongoing basis;

AND FURTHERMORE, recommends the government introduce a supplementary appropriation at the next sitting of this Legislature to provide for the initial investment of $5 million to deal with this special needs crisis.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. The motion is in order. To the motion. Mr. Erasmus.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe I have to say too much. For the last couple of days, Members have expressed their frustration with the fact that we need to put an awful lot of money into education and that perhaps the best place to start is to deal with the special needs in our schools because of the fact that special needs students need a lot of attention and they do cause disturbances in the classes. Dealing with this particular problem at the outset will help alleviate a lot of the other problems such as pupil/teacher ratio, that type of thing. Mr. Speaker, at this point I would just like to request that we have a recorded vote. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

The Member is requesting a recorded vote. To the motion. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seconded this motion and I will be supporting it, obviously. I think it is very important, when looking at the various areas, that we could direct funding to in education, we felt that special needs was an area that could affect a large number of other areas of education. We believe that the extra help will relieve some of the stress in the classroom that is experienced by the teachers, perhaps some of the stress experienced by other students who are not receiving the amount of attention that they should be because of special needs students as a demand and a requirement on the teachers. But, mostly, Mr. Speaker, I think that this money needs to be put in here for the sake of the children. We can look at all the other areas in education, but we need to look at the child. We need to look at the child who is in that classroom who has a special need in education who, if they do not have their needs met and they do not have proper diagnosis, a proper work plan, and proper help at this stage of their life, it could affect them for the rest of their life. I will be supporting this motion, and I believe that we do manage, $5 million sounds like a lot of money, but one bad forest fire season can cost us an extra $20 million. Many different areas of spending of this government can quickly accrue to this amount of money, and I believe that it behooves us to find the money to put it to education. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

To the motion. Mr. Henry.

Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think it would be totally inappropriate for any Member to oppose this motion. We have all spoken earlier this week about the need for additional resources in education. I am somewhat miffed by the demand of it, that we put $5 million in. But I would like to clarify for the Minister that I would like to see this particular money coming from within the department. I would like every stone turned over to try and provide the funds that are required for the special needs that are asked for in this motion here. Mr. Speaker, I would very much encourage the Members of the social committee to work a lot closer with Members on this side of the House long before an item like this gets to this Legislature and if they will attend the meetings and make sure these other Members in this House are very aware of what they are proposing, it would be much easier to work collectively and support a motion like this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

To the motion. Mr. Ootes.

Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will be voting in favour of the motion, but I think Mr. Henry does have a legitimate comment. First of all, on the issue of refining, I do believe that the department within itself can find certain amounts of money, as well. I am supportive of ensuring that more money be dedicated to this type of program, no question in my mind that it is needed, but, certainly within bureaucracies, we can always find and refine. I also agree with Mr. Henry that it is important to keep us informed on this side of the House on social matters. This is an extremely important area and throughout the year, I think the committee can devote itself a little more attentively to this, but I am supportive of this initiative. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

To the motion. Closing remarks, Mr. Erasmus.

Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have made this

motion because of the fact that there is simply not enough money in the education budget. I do not think walking around turning over stones is going to help find more money. In any case, if they do find some money, they become more efficient. It is not going to be $5 million a year or more, so it has got to come from someplace else. Just about every time we come back to this House in the last couple of years, there seems to be another pet project that Cabinet comes up with and they find the money for these things. Half the time, we do not even know anything about it until we see an article in the newspaper telling us about it. They have always been able to find money for projects. Now this is an area where, even if we have to go to deficit, this is the place to do it. This is the area, education, particularly special needs. Mr. Speaker, if this is the appropriate time, I would seek a recorded vote on this matter. Thank you.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. Mr. Erasmus is asking for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please stand.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Erasmus, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Ootes, Mr. Henry, Mr. Rabesca.

The Deputy Speaker

The Deputy Speaker David Krutko

All those opposed, please stand. All those abstaining, please stand.

Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Miltenberger, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Dent, Mr. Roland, Mr. Steen.