This is page numbers 25 - 46 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was services.

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Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Listening to the Minister of Education's responses I am tempted to ask him some questions, but I will redirect my questions to the Minister of Health and Social Services and hopefully I will get two bats at this.

Mr. Speaker, I would like the Minister to elaborate, if she could, on this fact sheet she gave us yesterday. One hundred files were reviewed. What does that mean? Was it a random selection or were they carefully selected by the department to achieve a certain end? That is one question to deal with these files, to give the Minister an indication of what I would like to hear her respond to. Thank you.

Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, the Honourable Jane Groenewegen.

Return To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have received a more extensive briefing note as a result of your questions in the House yesterday as to how the terms of reference were set out for this review. However, it does not specify how the 100 files were chosen.

It does talk about how the eight communities were chosen, and the various other organizations that were consulted with. The 100 files I am sure represented a cross-section of cases, but I will undertake to find out for the Member exactly how the 100 cases were selected. Thank you.

Return To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The Member for Thebacha, Mr. Miltenberger.

Supplementary To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The half response, or quasi-notice, leaves me at the Minister's mercy and convenience. I will have to trust her reliability. I do have a question regarding the consultation. I would like to know what it means when they list community councils, band councils, school authorities.

Did the plane go into the community with the motors running on the tarmac, with a few folks scurrying over to the community hall? Did they drag some poor folks around the table, ask a few questions, and then jump on the plane so they could be back in Yellowknife for supper? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, the Honourable Jane Groenewegen.

Further Return To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Jane Groenewegen Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Member has indicated that he does not like questions that are taken as quasi-notice, so I will take that question as notice. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Question 14-14(2): Child And Family Services Program Review
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Groenewegen. The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. The Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.

Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Antoine. As referred to in my Member's statement, I am concerned about the issue of water quality, which has been a problem in the past, most notably a sensitivity to the smell, the colour and the taste of the water in Fort McPherson.

It has now become more of a health concern with the discovery of THMs, which is a cancer-causing component traced to bladder cancer, especially in eastern Canada. If you had the opportunity to watch the National during Christmas and New Years there was a major broadcast on the number of bladder cancers in the smaller communities in eastern Canada. They were all traced to this particular chemical, which is THM.

Because of that I feel this situation Fort McPherson finds itself in is at a crisis level. That is why I have spoken to the Minister of Indian Affairs as well as our Member of Parliament. The community of Fort McPherson is taking steps to resolve this as soon as possible.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs to tell me what his department has done to date to try to resolve this issue. Thank you.

Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the issue of water quality in Fort McPherson has been an issue for a while here, and the department has been involved in trying to resolve it. I know it has been outstanding for a long time with the colour and the smell and the liquidity of the water.

I have been in Fort McPherson and they gave me a glass to drink, but I would not drink it. I am aware of the situation. In trying to resolve it, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has been working with the health board in the Inuvik region, as well as Public Works and Services.

We discussed this with the community in December. The area of THMs, which is now a health concern, has come to light. As a result of that, we tried a number of solutions.

We tried to fix the water containers and clean the pipes, but it is still not good enough. The department has issued filters as an interim measure. To date, I understand there have not been any complaints received from the community about the water quality since the introduction of the filters.

Last week, on February 15th, the acting deputy minister was in Inuvik and Fort McPherson, and held a series of meetings to discuss the water issue, including the status of the water supply and improvements. I am told Deepwater Lake has been identified as a new source of water and this project is a priority.

The department is working to try to rearrange the project financing to allow for the use of Deepwater Lake. We have an application to the Gwich'in Tribal Council for access to Deepwater Lake, since it is on the Gwich'in lands. We need to apply to have access to it. This is what the department has been doing to date. Thank you.

Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, could the Cabinet Minister indicate exactly what the next steps his department is going to take to ensure that this project does come to light and is done in a speedy manner? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this project of having a new and better water supply for Fort McPherson was a P3 pilot project and that has been flipped into the conventional capital projects. We will have to work towards rearranging the project financing through the normal process. This will be done through the help of the department. The department will need to arrange that and with the help of the standing committees of this House, we will have to look at that.

At the same time, since Deepwater Lake is on the Gwich'in tribal lands, and based on the discussions with the president of the Gwich'in Tribal Council last week, we anticipate the negotiations could begin on access and use of Deepwater Lake as soon as possible.

We have to prepare a management plan for the Deepwater Lake watershed as well, and a design will be carried out concurrent with the negotiations with the Gwich'in Tribal Council. Trying to acquire the permission to have access to the lake with the Gwich'in Tribal Council is going to start very soon, and refinancing internally within the department will start as soon as it can.

This takes time and we will be sure it is a priority. The health of the people in Fort McPherson is a major concern to us. We will try to move as fast as we can. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Krutko, second supplementary.

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister tell me if there will be any activities regarding the upgrade of the water treatment plant in Fort McPherson so that that work can continue? And will that work take place this summer?

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Antoine.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, through the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and working with the Public Works and Services department, we will continue to make changes to the treatment, including installing holding tanks to increase the effectiveness of the treatment chemicals.

We have been testing the Brita filters in households for several months. These are just temporary measures. The end goal is to eventually have access to Deepwater Lake to have a good supply of water. These measures at this time are interim measures and we are trying to provide good water to the community. These are the initiatives we are doing now. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Antoine. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With my final supplementary I would like to ask the Minister has he worked with his counterpart, the Minister of Health and Social Services, to see what the health implications of this chemical are on the residents of Fort McPherson? In my statement, I made reference to the concerns that were raised in eastern Canada where this has been determined to cause large cases of bladder cancer. It showed that people in smaller communities in eastern Canada had more cases of this cancer, especially in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.

Can the Minister tell me if he has had the opportunity to speak with his counterpart to see what the health implications are?

Supplementary To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The Honourable Minister Antoine.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the different departments in this government have been working together in this case, at the regional level as well as the headquarter level.

At this point in time, I am not fully briefed on the implications of the health effects regarding chemicals that are in the water. As soon as I get that kind of information, I will share it with my colleague across the floor here. Thank you.

Further Return To Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Question 15-14(2): Fort Mcpherson Water Quality
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Antoine. Oral questions, the Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 16-14(2): Rae Edzo Municipal Funding Levels
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, the Honourable Jim Antoine. The formula funding agreement between the Government of the Northwest Territories and the communities has recently been reviewed. Recommendations were made to make some changes to the formula to make it more fair and equitable.

In the case of one of the municipalities I represent, Rae Edzo, funds are provided by Municipal and Community Affairs to provide basic municipal services. These services include general government services, building maintenance, recreational services, and community planning.

Community governments are required to provide these services under the Hamlet Act and Chartered Communities Act. In the case of Rae Edzo, it is pointed out in one of the documents that "unique community features are not always addressed by the funding formula." The example that was given was the dual communities of Rae Edzo.

Mr. Speaker, I am worried that unless an agreement is reached which recognizes the unique situation of this twin community, the two communities will split and apply for funding separately. In this time of tight budgets, I think that it would be more cost effective to reach an agreement. Would the Minister commit to examining this issue?