Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mrs. Groenewegen.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to give the Member official notice that I will be tabling the Child Welfare League Review Report in the House tomorrow. Thank you.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
And providing us with copies, prior to tabling, would be when? Tomorrow morning?
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Yes, Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we could provide you with a copy prior to the tabling in the morning.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question in regard to performance measures. Once again there is a commitment to having performance measures completed and submitted to the standing committee prior to consideration of the main estimates during the Third Session of the Assembly in June.
I have with me two and a quarter pages dealing only with goal statements for children's issues, which overlooks or does not address significant portions of the department. I was just wondering if the Minister could clarify whether these two and a bit pages are the revised performance measures that they were talking about? This is in the June 5th package that was provided to me as chair of the Standing Committee on Social Programs. Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am just going to attempt to confirm if that is the performance measures.
Mr. Chairman, the performance measures listing, which I have here, actually covers five pages. I am not sure if it is the same document that Mr. Miltenberger has or not.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I guess we would have to compare paper, but I just referred to this package. The only thing that looks like performance measures are these goals statements. I know the issue of performance measures was raised, in some detail, in our report. I do not have the five pages that the Minister is referring to, at least I do not think I do.
So maybe I would ask the Minister if I could get a copy, just so I could see the revised performance measures, because it is an issue that I would like to address as we go through the main estimates.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if we could, we would like to get these pages copied for the Members, just in the next few minutes.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
I thank the Minister for that and I would appreciate taking a look at those.
I just have a question now in regard to the linkage of the strategies, the Children and Youth Strategy. I wonder if the Minister could link that to this agenda for children and youth working together towards a joint commitment for action. Are they part and parcel of the same strategy? Does one supercede the other? What is the connection, I guess, to those two strategies? Thank you.
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Jane Groenewegen Hay River South
Mr. Chairman, I am going to refer that question to Ms. Praamsma, Thank you.
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Praamsma
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The documents that the Member is referring to include a profile for children and youth which was prepared by the department and distributed to all the social envelope departments as a draft research document.
As well, there is a draft children and youth strategy that was developed by the department in consultation with our social envelope departments. What we have done is we, in fact, have made a commitment in the last business plan to prepare a strategy for children and youth.
So we took the initiative and we sent the information out. We have asked for feedback from the social envelopes because we felt that we would be able to expand it to incorporate a commitment for an agenda for children and youth, that the document was broad enough that it would be able to serve both purposes. So that is the communications that have gone out to the social envelope is to look at and review it for the potential of an agenda for children and youth. From that document as well, a component was the early childhood development segment. That was also circulated. Thank you.
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Michael Miltenberger Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have gone through the children and youth draft strategy as well as the agenda for children and youth and there are a number of concerns when you look at that strategy.
I would like to ask the Minister, have they put a dollar figure on the tremendous number of initiatives that are referenced in this document? All of which, in my opinion, require new money. The other comment would be, how much involvement have the other social envelope partners, Education, Culture and Employment for sure, had in this document, because the sense I get is almost an exclusive Health and Social Services focus? When I look at these issues, when you move back to page 21 and 22, corresponding action, a government wide commitment to provide resources and support of children, supporting work arrangements in all Government of the NWT funded settings, support employment programs for target high risk families. You pick anyone of these issues, increase accessibility to services by having them closer to home and by building community capacity. The list goes on and on and on.
I would assume significant amounts of new money. So this strikes me as almost like a wish list. If we had a perfect world, we had all the money we needed, this is what we will do.
My question to the Minister is have they quantified the money required? Is this going to be a doable strategy or is it just going to be a picture of some sort of Health and Social Services utopia, if there was lots of money?
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Praamsma
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The costing of all the different initiatives has not been completed and, in fact, there has been considerable work done on matching each one of the goals with some of the various initiatives that are already happening in the communities.
For example, prenatal nutrition programs that already exist within the community actually help to impact some of the goals that have been identified in that document. The work has been done in collaboration with all the social envelope departments. However, we were the first drafter of the documents, so it probably would show a healthy Health and Social Services influence, but it has gone out for distribution and comments to other departments for their input.
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